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| Question #1238324464 | Sunday, 29-Mar-2009 |
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| This was a comment before. But its about my uncertainity with Socionics and all typing systems, because of my uncertainity with my type. Please read, it would be so helpful to have new perspective. Its very long, but there is alot to it that you might have thought of, but never gotten far in trying to fully understand. [[[[[[[[Well, I'm an INT-something, or something something rather; who knows what? You sound like your preference as being an INTJ is clean-enough cut. Good for you. I'm going to be 17 soon and from when I was 14-15, I wasted my life contemplating socionics. Socionics is an interesting structure to such a grabbing concept. Most of the people who are on here for so long must be strong INTJs, maybe I am too, I'm just deficient and don't understand and comprehend things well enough, so I have to adopt the seeking behaviors of other types. I used to be really shy, wouldn't talk to anyone, but I love attention and I love people, I love it when people like me. But I'm in-my-own-head and shy all the same, I'm a freakin' mess. I scored INTP almost everytime I took the socionics test, but I fit the notion of dominant Ti better than Ni I think, though I get confused and am never sure. I'm super serious and intense; at my best I can appear very casual but still extremely intense, and have learned to be Chameleon-like in many different settings. I can never commit to anything. I also don't get good grades, and can talk intelligently and understand alot of things(though math is tricky unless it has to do with Classical Music) to an extent that I could be most genuinely thoughtful sounding speaker in a good sized collection of people. But I'm lazy and useless, in some ways I feel incredibly stupid. But, but but, but, I feel like I have a characteristic perspective to me that is very rare, and gives me the potential for a lot of ego and a lot of humility all the same, but coexisting and conflicting. Tangents. Well, my goal was to offer you some perspective, usually I have some pretty unusual perspectives. Socionics, I don't get it, I more about it than most people who claim to get it know, but, I don't have a type to confidently call my own. So, either I discredit it, or stubbornly hope it will work.]]]]]]]] What do you guys think? Do I just have ambiguous preferences, am I a confused member of a distinct type, or is Socionics just not that deeply applicable and somewhat faulty and not very scientific? Thats my current story with Socionics as best as I will be able to describe it right now. Don't call me any type please unless you are totally convinced and think you can sort of ADD to my knowledge, and NOT indescriminately OVERIDE it. In someways, Ne seems to be me because I like really wierd things and I indulgently dig into any concept I come across(I think refinement between intuition types is concept of faulty logic, its all the same..prove me wrong?). I'm also very charismatic when in a good mood, but I often feel like I have a puny presence. I don't think I'm "right brained" enough to be an ENTP. INTP, they seem too rigid and strategic at the expense of deep understanding. ENTJs are too tough and regular. INFJs, too naturally tranquil. INFPs, I can't manipulate my emotions very quickly. ENFPs, I'm too slow witted, even though I love social things, plus I'm too deep. ENFJs, too good socially and too energetic. INTJs, too linnear, but maybe that how I was born and I grew around it. ISTJs, too practicle. ISTPs too cool and cold. ISFJs, god, sometimes I feel dangerously close to being one, they describe them so much as what I aspire not to be but might actually be deep down; they are so lamely described, I have a strong mind! ISFPs, maybe when I have some twisted perspective, I'll believe it, same for all other unmentioned sensates. Please Help People, try my thinking on, if you think you have the type for me nailed, go for it. If you can't decide, start thinking about what I could actually be in a more flexible sense. I don't know what I mean really, just use your intuition to give me a wholesome, truly wholesome answer if you can. -- Grant |
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| A30 Hmmm...yes, now that you mention it, I do get like that as well - apathetic and lethargic if not exposed to Fe (or Fi as well in my case) for prolonged periods of time...actually i find socializing with peers for relatively brief periods of time tends to energize me substantially. I always associated that need for company with my slightly borderline disposition; I never thought much of it as just a normal human need...so maybe it isn't so much the Ti itself that's causing the feeling of internal numbness, but the prolonged-social-isolation side-effect of Ti...? hmmm...as for the INFp/INTj thing, i should have noted that the functional and behavioural descriptions for INFp i was referring to were actually Myers-Briggs ones (since it was before i found out about socionics), which of course doesn't equate to INFp socionics type (it's been quite a few years, I forgot that little detail). But back to Grant's case...what possesses you to think that you are, of all types, an ESTj?? you are about as far away from ESTj as i can imagine! i don't know that your approach to typing yourself is very objective - you're basically going through different types, seeing if you like the way they think and act...and as soon as you find one little difference, you write off that type as not being your type. really, it would be better to look more closely at your own behaviour, noting the most prominent (i.e. consistent) patterns, and trying to link that up to a dominant and creative function. and btw, you're not going to get a 100% match - socionics isn't that personality specific. oh, and noting your relationship patterns - what types you get along with best - might also be a good clue. Some of the things in your previous post really stood out to me - 'I'm intrigued by the hidden agenda, "to be perfect", it seems to describe me in some ways', (though i'd say your intrigued by the notion of being perfect point blank, not just as a hidden agenda) and 'there is always something that I am not sure about' - these two quotes seem to convey your chief concerns as apparent in your posts - wanting to be perfect, but at the same time, being unsure of yourself. what's more, your notion of 'perfect' seems to largely involve being liked by ppl - that is what you seem to talk about the most - how different types are perceived by people in general, as opposed to a notion of 'perfect' as being...say productive, responsible, physically attractive, intelligent...I think all the NF types seek some sort of perfection or ideal (ENFj's and INFj's more for the world than for themselves), but you're level of unsureness of yourself makes me inclined to type you as dominant Ni, as these types are always seeking an absolute, ultimate - the 'perfect' - set of principles to live by, yet are always afraid they've missed something. that you're very concerned about how others see you, makes me more inclined to type you as INFp, since INTp's generally aren't concerned about that. One thing that separates you from typical INFp's, however, is that you don't hold back on saying what you're thinking. This may be to do with your ADD. Or maybe it suggests ENFp - they're also very verbal, concerned with being liked and being better than others. but being dom Ne (into alternative possibilities) they're not likely to put so much weight on just one theory, for such a prolonged period of time... Anyhow that's my four cents. -- Shez |
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