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Question #1130527913 | Friday, 28-Oct-2005 |
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Hi! I enjoy socionics, and were encouraged to discover my type - as a matter of fact I'm 100% convienced it works! The only problem I often encounter is finding my dual. I am ENFP (Reporter), and my dual is Artisan... I think I had no luck so far in attracting this particular type.... My best people I get along with and spend most of my time are Peacemakers. I just love these people but finding an Artisan...is just not working...could you suggest to me how do I identify and attract the type I need....I am female (have no problem attracting any type of men but that one... hm...!) -- Ellie |
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A13 OMG guys - I'm an ENFP and I got an ISTP that I worship!! Ist possible?? YES!! Somehow we work amazingly together. Just thought I'd tell you indeed it is possible. He brings reality to my spontaneity and dreaming phases. I inspire him. Most importantly though, we look forward to compromise in the sense that we learn more about each other. We don't dread it. I think this goes beyond personality types into discipline; perhaps both of us are coming a little more towards center with each of our behaviors. He has learned to be okay with more fluidity, for example, and I have learned to value logic more in my debates. All kinds of things. Very best luck to you all, above all, STAY WITH SOMEONE NICE -- Anonymous |
A14 I really like INTP better than ISTP. I think Ns are better with other Ns. Besides INTP is just as wild as ISTP -- Vanice |
A15 As an ISTP the thing I’ve enjoyed so much about this posting is how all of you got it right about ISTPs. Naturally ISTPs know themselves pretty well, but I love how ENFPs get us. Yet you still want to stay around us and find us intriguing. Hm… curious. I’m just kidding. It makes perfect sense why ENFPs and ISTPs go together so well. There just isn’t enough room here to explain all of the great reasons why. I am a guy and to all of the ENFP women out there, I love almost everything about you. (Notice I used the qualifier, “almost” because I have to maintain some level of aloofness and don’t want to totally commit myself). Anyway, I love ENFPs for all of their strengths AND weaknesses. In reading about the ENFP personality type, it says something about ENFPs being emotionally insecure and I like that because it’s such a real emotion. I can’t stand when people pretend to be secure when they aren’t. I’d rather see someone as insecure and help them find a way to build their self-esteem, which is usually already there. I think it is true that ISTPs have difficulty staying in relationships. I know I have a hard time with it. Part of my problem is that my mother is an ENFP and it kind of creeps me out to think I would marry someone with the same personality type as her. However, we get along really well despite our shortcomings. So, maybe that’s one way to spot an ISTP. If you see a calm, quiet, secure looking guy with his outgoing mother who has a keen understanding of everyone around her, introduce yourself to him… and please get him to stop spending so much time with his mother. I’m 5’10”, blond, blue eyes, 37 years old with a stocky build living in the Denver area. -- an ISTP |
A16 A14. This comment is for you. I dated an INTp guy and, yes, while lots of similarities to ISTp, they're very heady and intellectual. Think Einstein or Rene Descartes, for example. It makes for wonderful imaginative and intellectual conversations, great photograph explorations, lots of time listening to great music together etc. but then reality soon hits. My experience with INTps is that they're not very practical and I find that super stressful because I have trouble with practical stuff. With an ISTp, you have the same fundamental and enjoyable personality as an INTp but they are more grounded/realistic and that's a good thing for dreamy ENFps who could use some reality. Plus you can't beat the sensuality of an ISTp who I think are hands down the most intense and sexy of any personality type that I've come across. I'll take the ISTps sensuality and adventure-seeking personality any day over the head-in-the cloud intellectual INTp. I am strong N and I'm dating an ISTp guy (who is a pilot, avid photgrapher and backcountry skiier) and it's seems to work much better and with less effort than when I was dating an INTp. Give it a try! -- Anonymous |
A17 Hey guy's, Sorry to be the wet towel in the face, but you'll get over it in the morning I hope... Anyway, ISTP_ENFP is not a perfect match! ENFP & INTJ's are the perfect match... I know a few couples with that match and they all have very good marriages and relationships.. some even 50 years plus... I'm absolutely positive of this... ISTP & ESFJ are actually a perfect match... there's only about 2% of ENFP's as opposed to 10% ISTP's... So evolutionarily speaking... It's either ENFP's intend on being players for life and juggling 5ive ISTP's each... or ISTP's are fine being starved for women... N's & N's make better couples because of the population ratio... similar way of living off into the future and planning ahead... where as Sensors live in the moment... ENFP's are very messy creative emotionally expressive women and that's not going to add anything much to an ISTP but more chaos... what ISTP's like are Physically nurturing women who are very appearance conscious but also has a very emotional and judgmental side that only an ISTP can stand up to... look at all the movies from way back to present and you'll see that ISTP/ESFJ Match... or even go to the beach and observe the surfers here in LA and see who they're dating constantly... anyway.. that's my two cents.. I'd sure like to find the info that says ISTP and ENFP are a good match... -- Anonymous |
A18 Ahahaha @ A17. What, you give everyone on the beech MBTI test? LOL, gimmie a break, dude. You MBTI "experts" can't even tell types correctly never mind the intertype relations. Keep the towel -- Anonymous |
A19 LOL... I am an ISTP and have bin studying MBTI since I was 18.... that make it 7 years now. I have an extremely keen eye for identifying any type within seconds of observing their body language facial expressions... ISTP's tend to date more ESFJ's than anything else... Almost every waitress is ESFJ and almost every guy who races motorcycles and wins or surfs like they were born on a board is ISTP... I agree with the above comment... What is this typing based on anyhow... Two perceivers in a relationship? WHo will ever do the serious decision making? I wish I could upload an image of the real polarities of the types... but once again... ISTP and ESFJ is the most appropriate match! -- Anonymous |
A20 You agree with the above comment? The comment that says you are talking **** and you agree with it? In this case I agree with you agreeing to it too -- Anonymous |
A21 lol...this has to be an ENTP busting that ISTP's balls there http://www.socionics.com/advan/common/graph/sm2.gif -- Anonymous |
A22 I am a much older ISTP. I've been amusing myself with some of the thoughts on ISTPs and what our reactions might (would/could) be to different circumstances. That is the mystery of it. We can be quite surprising in our reactions. While we have a great sence of humor there are things that we don't like, in fact they are a great turn off to us. One, others opinions, two being pressured to reveal or talk about our feelings, three having one of our principles violated and four (but certainly not the end)... having a blunt attitude with an ISTP is not intimidating, it is very much disliked and make cause a reaction that surprises others. While we are cool and aloof, our confidence in ourselves prevents intimidation...even at gun point! And just cause our sence of humor goes over alot of peoples heads doesn't mean that we're "weird"...just means we're slightly ahead of you all. -- Anonymous |
A23 If you're seeing perfect long-term pairings of ENFP + INTJ than you're mistyping people, because Supervision pairings don't make a happy couple -- Anonymous |
A24 I would agree regarding the idea of esfj + istp making a good match as my parents are istp (dad) & esfj (mom) & have been happily married since 1969. A17-nice gender stereotyping.. -- Tricia |
A25 You'll meet ISTp's where there's somthing to do, such as motor sports, extreme sports, sculpture, art(making not looking at), and they're the ones who don't seem to have much to say about it. The smart ones can probably fix your car, computer, or diswasher, etc.... even if they've never worked on one before. -- Anonymous |
A26 cool and aloof is a pain in the arse!!! our hidden agenda is "to know".. if you sit there all cool and aloof how are we meant to know that you love us? until we already dumped you and thought about it weeks later "ohhh yeahhh.. you really did care" oh no.. come back!! i love you!!!... only to be tortured with your distrust of our emotions. but maybe we are just so in love with love and if you don't reciprocate we are like hmmm.. better find a better lover! thing is, there isnt one. istp's stop with the cool and aloof once in a while and just tell us how much you love us! please please please esfj's suck! they ask for a billion and one favours.. of course the istp would be happy to help.. but i'm sure after a while the istp would realise an enfp who gives love hugs jokes and a silly laid back attitude is wayyyy better than a bossy naggin idiot. -- Anonymous |
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A27 Wow. Just...wow. I'm an ENFP...and reading about ISTPs...yea...they sound interesting. I can't believe I could have been overlooking em! I see what you guys meant about that dry sense of humor. I found myself chuckling as I read the comments left by the ISTPs. Still, the lack of positive feedback would get to me after a while... My boyfriend is an ESFP, and more than willing to provide all the affirmation I could need. Having to weasel it out of you quiet ISTP guys would probably get frustrating for both of us. -- Anonymous |
A28 I'm an ISTp, and many of my close friends are as well. I'll give you an inventory of our wardrobe... Personally, I rock t-shirts, sweat pants, athletic shorts. On occassion I'll wear some jeans, but they're too uncomfortable. If its really hot outside, i might wear a wife-beater instead of a t. I don't own a single polo, and very proud of that. I shop at places like Goodwill, Salvation Army, junkyards, flea markets, and the like. To attract an ISTp, make eye contact. If the ISTp is into you, he's going to be looking at you. I would say take the initiative, we're not going to deny someone with a nice smile; although we may keep our distance from you at first, once we see your good intentions and the ice-breaking is done, we will show you a lot of attention. Unless you weigh a ton. Damn I should be a poet. -- Anonymous |
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