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Old 11/08/2007, 11:35 AM
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BL, you might have needed to make a effort to do what you did. This doesn't mean it is not your "strong conscious function".

The 1st and 2nd functions are strong conscious functions. And the way you approached the problem presented before you was Ti, in my opinion.
The point I'm trying to make though, is that even if I did use Ti to approach the problem (the assertion of which I have no opinion either way on, as I don't know enough about Ti to identify it) it doesn't mean it's an ego function. People are capable of using their Id functions deliberately, it just takes more effort/energy to do so than to use their ego functions.

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Also look at 7/8th functions of INTj, which are your "strong unconscious functions". I'm getting this info from WikiSocion. I hope this helps you decide. You definately seem INTj to me.
I've already decided that I'm not an INTj, but rather an INTp. Most of my responses in this thread have been me defending my position on the matter. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind debating it, but I just want to make it clear I already have a position which makes me inclined to defend it since various factors in real life, which I can't be bothered to think up and list right now, support this. Either way, I shall continue:

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7.Extraverted Logic

The LII can usually sense whether something is impractical or not, but is reluctant to say so without a logical principle in support.
Not at all - if I think something's impractical, why does it matter whether or not I have some arbitrary logical principle to support it? You don't even need to understand logic to see whether or not something works in practice, you just need a working pair of eyes.

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He dislikes rote memorization of dates and the like (often going to incredible lengths to avoid it), but paradoxically will often have a mental store of many arcane pieces of information (such as the first 100 digits of pi), usually relating to his specific interests.
I wouldn't say I dislike it or avoid it at all. If it's something I want to remember, I'll use any method that works to memorise it. I do seem to know lots of useless information, but not quite as in-depth as the first 100 digits as pi for example.

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He often could not care less whether or not this sort of trivia has any practical significance, if he personally finds it interesting.
I'll admit this part is true, although saying that, I don't actively seek out new information just for its own sake - I need to have a reason to learn something (which of course, could be personal interest).

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The LII only exchanges such information in conversation for entertainment, and criticizes overly bland analyses, especially if he feels they lack a strong focus or conclusion.
Not at all. I'll happily exchange any knowledge I have in conversation if I feel it's relevant - I couldn't care less about coming to a conclusion every time. Why are conclusions so necessary anyway? Some people appreciate just facts on their own.

Right, now for my favourite function:

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8. Introverted Intuition

At some point near the beginning of his life, the LII is likely to fall into the depths of nihilism, applying Cartesian doubt to everything he believes, exploring unusual and sometimes unsettling trains of thought.
After a brief look at wikipedia on the subject of nihilism (I can't be bothered to study it deeply - I just wanted to know what it is exactly), that doesn't sound like me at all. Well, I wouldn't be one to argue that there is some sort of objective meaning to life, but I don't seem to take that as far as is stated in the wikipedia article on nihilism.

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But after a while he realizes the futility of such ways of thinking, and takes the limits of reasoning as a basic part of common sense (Ti).
eh? I seriously doubt this is me. I do have a fair grounding in reality, but that never stops me from thinking or imagining all sorts of weirdness or other things completely irrelevant to physical reality. Spiritualism is a good example of something I think about often.

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The LII criticizes others for employing overly obscure or personal concepts, seeing them as pretentious or muddled.
Not at all. If people want to think something - why stop them? If they try and assert it on myself, then I'd aggress their actions, but I don't criticise people for holding those views or beliefs. Everyone can believe what they want, it doesn't have any bearing on me.

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He can accurately predict the consequences of actions, but avoids giving warnings to others, preferring to simply make the decisions himself.
Not necessarily. I am able to predict the consequences of actions (I always used to think this was something everyone did anyway - even now I'm still a bit uncertain as to whether or not weak Ni people have trouble with this, although I suppose everyone learns from experience anyway.

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Broad analyses of historical trends based on factual evidence are uninteresting to him after he has "mined" them for their more salient features or concepts.
Not really, although this isn't something I actively engage in anyway.

Sorry, but I'm still not convinced about being an INTj.
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