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Question #1239397634Friday, 10-Apr-2009
Category: Theory
Is it true that S-types (esp. Artisans)find it easier to move on and let go than N-types (esp. Idealists) ...not only after a break-up but generally..i mean in different life situations? -- ISFP
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A1 Maybe yes, maybe no. Depends. -- INTj laddie
A2 I'm not sure. I think N types probably go through more of a thinking process... for weeks, months, years and go far too indepth. It's hard: you've finally found someone you approve of, and it's gone! I'd imagine that S types maybe find and use others to get over something. Distract themselves? Not sure if that's correct though! -- ENTP
A3 That would explain alot about me, ha. I'll think for days about something totally useless. -- Anonymous
A4 This is a Socionics site so it doesn't use the same classification system that MBTI uses. According to the Socionic erotic roles, Caregivers (ESFj, ISFp, ESTj &ISTp) and Infantiles (ENFp, ENTp, INFj & INTj) are more mutually accepting when a relationship is over. Aggressors (ESTp, ISTj, ESFp & ISFj) and Victims (ENFj, INFp, ENTj & INTp) are more inclined to believe the other person is the one that ended the relationship, possibly making it harder to move on. -- An INFj
A5 Erotic roles are an aspect of socionics that should be eschewed as much as possible. -- Anonymous
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A6 See I'm ISFP and yet find it hard to let go , and I like to think over and over again how I've felt in a particular situation etc. and I also find it not so easy to let go of people I have feelings for I AM SUPPOSED TO BE AN ARTISAN!! I mean I love the arts,stage, everything I identify 100 % with the ISFP description and yet it's hard for me to move on Thanx 4 ur answers so far =) would appreciate other replies too -- ISFP
A7 @ the initial question, as an eNtp hanging on to the undesirable past?, definately no. If I see any good reason to abandon anything, even hard coded philosophies, existencial beliefs etc, I can burn the bridges quite fast, and when they're burned, they can never be rebuilt again, unless a similar good reason to rebuild them appear on the horizon. Which really have to be good. A rather rare phenomena. But I can still deal with the issues. As an example; I can cut off most bonds with people if circumstances warrants such decisions, still I can be accomodating towards them, and even help them if I see they need it. However, they are out of a circle, that is, they are excluded from some certain attention and appreciation from me. I do not seek their company anymore, but I will allow them to seek mine, if there is any good reason behind the action. They may consider me friendly since I still help them, I consider it just the right thing to do if I see it IS the right thing to do. Big difference. Switched status from relation\friendship to basic aquaintance material. So I do not linger in the disconnections as such, just alter the mindset about the pre-disconnect nature of the relation and tune any post-disconnect interaction accordingly . Just an example. I know it may sound cryptic, but that is the best way I can describe the process as an ENTp type about the concerned matter in your question. -- ENTp
A8 I think ENFps and INFps of the idealist group find it easier to move on and leave old friends etc. when they move geographically or when they think they have tried their best. -- Anonymous
A9 A5, I strongly disagree. The erotic roles don't just pertain to romantic relationships but all relationships and from observation, they seem fairly accurate. But I'm curious as to why you disagree -- An INFj
A10 If i have a hard time letting go of feelings or a person or cant help but reminiscent a situation relating to a feeling or a person, I usually like to do something about it for my own satisfaction - either show appreciation by telling them so that good feelings are spread and they feel happy. When it comes to romantic interactions, after years from now i'd like to believe that i tried and gave it a shot so that i'm still not thinking about the possibilities or regret not taking chances and i can quite peacefully forget about it knowing that it didnt work for a reason and that there is a lot more happiness and positive feelings with the current or future honey to look forward to in life... anddd when i'm finally settled down with The one, i can be confident and happy about my decision and completely love and give my all to that person without any thought debris like 'what ifs' and 'if onlys.' Ofcourse theres other complexities too like possibly hurting several people while a person is trying to figure out who it is he or she wants to be with. When theres a situation like that i usually TRY to figure out from little cues and from a relative distance if possible if i'd really want to consider them for romantic possibilities. if yes, then i'd say go for it. since when was life fair anyways. -- Anonymous
A11 A9: The "erotic attitudes" are thoroughly insipid and entirely devoid of merit. Their entry into Western socionics is the sole result of poorly translated Babelfish articles, which really attests to how "useful" others have found them. Most likely their enfeebled existence is sustained by cognitive biases. Now, you are quite incorrect in stating that the erotic attitudes pertain to "all relationships"; they were devised to describe romantic behavior and have consistently been thus applied. I would challenge you to find exceptions to that. It has not been adequately explained why irrational IM elements should influence compatibility, romantic or otherwise, more so than rational IM elements. I would furthermore challenge you to attempt justify that. There are, incidentally, socionics categorizations with non-romantic foci that incorporate all types with the same irrational ego element and these are known as "worldview groups." -- Anonymous
A12 I would think that 'N' types would find it easier to move on due to their future oriented outlook. 'S' types are either in the present or in the past. They may not be able to "envision" that things will improve in the future, or may view the future with pessimism. -- Anonymous
A13 I agree with A12, only this regards Nes more than Nis. Nis do not dwell in the past or in the present, but can get very pessimistic, too. Some Artisans find it easy to move on (I have met some ESTps who do); some do not, and extremely so. Especially us and ISFjs, but only in the cases when we really cared for the person. I move easily on after a friendship ends, but in the case of few my long-term and close friendships I would probably never move on completely if the friendship ended. I take a long time to recover from a romantic relationshop, often think of the person even ten years afterwards. The behaviour of NFs in this case IMO differs from type to type and sometimes from person to person and from situation to situation. INFjs find it hard to move on, ENFps not so much. -- Ezis (ESFp)
A14 i dont think so. im an ISFj and its really hard for me to deviate from the plan I make for myself, and to except somethings when they go wrong. i think regret is part of the human experience and not rooted in type -- Anonymous
A15 I am an 'N' type and find it difficult to move on. Us 'N' type minds are more in the past and future, while 'S' types are more in the present. -- Anonymous
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