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Question #1195153836Thursday, 15-Nov-2007
Category: Theory
Is this a skeptical me type thing or is this a reality. Basically I think that apart from maybe a few close friends and family, you can't trust anyone. You can try but expect it to fail. This isn't what I want to think but you can only go on what the world shows a person (or perhaps it is my loner way that creates this) What do other ISTp's think and other (perhaps less skeptical) types think and their feedback? -- Cyclops
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A1 em...i am going to be blunt. if u are talking socionics, and want to keep the 'not trusting thing' within the realm of socionics, you have to demonstrate that ISTPs as a type have reflex toward 'not trusting'. otherwise, in strictest sense...this is only a phase. broaden. what does it matter. are ISTPs so sociable that trust and people are a major issue for them? -- @sirac
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A2 I personally am not skeptical about people's decency until they show me so. Although there is only a few people that I would say I feel that there is a loyalty between us and I really trust them. But these relationships have been tested over time by different circumstances. I wouldn't leave most people alone in a room with my purse with cash in it, like 2 people besides my family. Even though most people wouldn't do something like steal from you, I wouldn't give them the chance. A lot of F's I know seem to be more, even overly trusting and that kinda seems foolish to me. -- chrissyc
A3 i can't help but agree here. i trust barely anyone except for myself, family, and one or two friends. i'm skeptical of ppl by nature and past experience has made this about 1000x worse. -- infj?
A4 "Is this a skeptical me type thing or is this a reality" - OK, that's a self-defeating question right there! If you're skeptical you're not likely to trust any answers anyway, so how would you determine if it's reality? I have my own "loner way" and basically I have a natural attitude of not wanting to need others. So, I can trust them enough to talk about various episodes in my life, including ones less than salutary, becuase I'm not afraid of the info being used against me (apart from a couple of exceptions) - and I don't simply "open up" to strangers, either - I let conversations proceed organically, freely offering my perspective and staying receptive to what they offer about themselves & their views. In the case of having to rely on others for more material purposes, such as meeting bills or running their half of the business ... well, I've had my ups and downs, and I still feel fairly trusting. When an individual crosses/disappoints me, I pretty much put them out of my life - there's only energy drain in holding grudges; if you try to trust them again you'll always be holding a little something back. I'd rather give the benefit of the doubt to someone new (or else go in some other direction where that need is obviated). Of course, to refer back to your question, this has put some walls between me and my family, but in their case (and in the case of some truly persistent friends) I just re-structure (not to mention severely limit) our interactions. Also, trust is more than simply a matter between people; we have to trust our assumptions about the world, too - how often do those fail? Hell, how often have I told myself I'll change some bad habit, only to later figure out I never did? Yet I still have decent self-confidence (that hopefully stops short of arrogance) and think of myself as a person that others can trust. So, to answer your question in a very random fashion, I think trusting others is a risk, but one I willingly face because the alternative is just too grim. I'd rather go out & try to get stuff done than spend a lot of time examining folks' every word & gesture to reach some conclusion about their future reliability - especially when, ultimately, that means trusting *my* judgment about them! -- iAnnAu
A5 I am, i believe, true to my type as an extraverted feeler in that I generally trust most people, and see them in a positive light. However my experience has taught me that this can catch me out occasionally, so for really important stuff, like my child's safety and security I am much more vigilant. Being open to enjoying and appreciating people's positive qualities has allowed me to experience some real highs in my life that I don't think I would have got otherwise, and has left me with some amazing memories too. -- karen
A6 A1 you are right, (as you already know I appreciate your general thought and mind processes-by the way I didn't find that blunt-try harder ) On the face of it, it's not purely socionically centred, but nonetheless I decided to put the question to the 'posse' and see what happens. To the general replies, I don't in general particularly FEEL the need to trust, as I function reasonably contained within myself, but nor do I have the energy for continually watching my back where it seems, unfortunately in my current employment role its the fashion - apparently its backstabbing with brownie points. (I have the evidence now to back up my hunches so I'm no longer questioning my own mind construct.) (Those around so easily comfortable with two facedness astound me as why put in so much effort for something so apparently pointless and in my view demeaning to ones own self) Nonetheless asking the question has re-affirmed some inner inquiries if that makes sense? So thanks for your feedback karen, iAnnAu, chrysic, infp.. Eh did I leave anyone out, can you check for me Sirac hehe! Anyhoo I may come back at a later date with some more precise info and therefore socionically re-align it all, to boot! -- Cyclops
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