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Old 01/07/2010, 12:39 AM
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It is causing me problems. I realize how much people don't care for me as much as I want them to care, so want to torture everyone. What is funny in me, is that I want people to sympathize with me while I am willing to feel any sympathy for the problems of anyone.
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Old 08/07/2010, 01:36 AM
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It is causing me problems. I realize how much people don't care for me as much as I want them to care, so want to torture everyone. What is funny in me, is that I want people to sympathize with me while I am willing to feel any sympathy for the problems of anyone.
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Old 08/07/2010, 11:52 AM
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Oops I now realize I made a typo, so correction:

I am NOT willing to feel any sympathy with anyone.
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Old 08/07/2010, 05:16 PM
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No help to you though, lol.

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Old 14/07/2010, 10:25 PM
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Oops I now realize I made a typo, so correction:

I am NOT willing to feel any sympathy with anyone.
You can actually "will" sympathy? Is it like Nietzsche "Will to power" except "Will to sympathy"? lol, just joking.

Maybe people care but you just can't tell, as in, you'd need their caring to be very explicitly stated...? Hope it gets better! Unfortunately, I'm not ESTp so can only remotely understand the way you're "wired" through observation, can't live it.

Sure there are some people who care CC

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CC - I'd be curious to know as to whether you can really willingly choose to feel sympathy for people or not. I'd be really surprised if it were true - but maybe i don't understand differences between types as well as i thought.

It's a foreign concept to me as i've always assumed sympathy is involuntary....

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Old 15/07/2010, 03:35 AM
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Mindfulness meditation can help. This is a good book on the subject. Sometimes while meditating I think of everyone I know, friend or foe, and visualize them smiling.

You might also try asking the people you meet how they're doing and simply listening without analysis or judgement for a few minutes while they talk.
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Old 15/07/2010, 06:00 AM
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Korps3y, that's cool

@CC: Thinking about chat conversation and wondering if feeling sympathy for others while not doing anything about their situation isn't the same as not feeling sympathy for them. It seems to me, at the end of the day, the result is the same, lol.
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Mindfulness meditation can help. This is a good book on the subject. Sometimes while meditating I think of everyone I know, friend or foe, and visualize them smiling.
Not necessarily saying you are wrong, but I thought the purpose of meditation was NOT to think?
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Edit: I read about mindfulness meditation, I can see how it would be useful.
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I think it's in our nature to want something for ourselves that we're not always willing to give to others. I often seek sympathy and usually receive pity, so I've changed the approach. I'd also offer sympathy, expecting to receive the same if not more when I shared something. But in a number of cases, it was fake sympathy. Now, I offer sympathy without expecting it in return. I don't expect anyone to return the favor.
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I have found this trait in a few INTp's I have met. You have a higher degree than most to be loved/accepted, if you feel you are not getting enough from someone it can turn to anger (a secondary emotion). Hence, the "torture" inflicted is a reaction to cover your pain/hurt. A strong Benfactor, can help you sort things out. Do you have any ISTj friends or family members? I hope this helps.
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