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Old 03/06/2008, 06:34 AM
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Does somebody want to explain to me the polarity of the Functions (+/-) ?
What does all that polarity mean.... to give, for instance, two Fe's a completely different meaning ?

its almost as if now there are 16 functional entities to try to get to know.
Does it constitute a model or is it just mumbo/jumbo theory out there ?


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Old 04/06/2008, 03:57 AM
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Does somebody want to explain to me the polarity of the Functions (+/-) ?
What does all that polarity mean.... to give, for instance, two Fe's a completely different meaning ?
its almost as if now there are 16 functional entities to try to get to know.
Does it constitute a model or is it just mumbo/jumbo theory out there ?
I guess not.
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Old 04/06/2008, 08:42 AM
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Start with the basics of Socionics before you try to understand more complicated stuff. You don't even have a correct basic understanding of the fundamentals.
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I don't know what is polarity, + - on socionics functions? That's BS and you should not concern yourself with this rubbish.
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The pluses and minuses on the type description page simply mean 'good points' and 'bad points' about that type. You sometimes over-complicate simple things.
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The pluses and minuses on the type description page simply mean 'good points' and 'bad points' about that type. You sometimes over-complicate simple things.
Hey....that's me !
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Does somebody want to explain to me the polarity of the Functions (+/-) ?
What does all that polarity mean.... to give, for instance, two Fe's a completely different meaning ?
its almost as if now there are 16 functional entities to try to get to know.
Does it constitute a model or is it just mumbo/jumbo theory out there ?


Some socionists do make the +- distinction (e.g., to define certain reinin dichotomies) but it is largely superfluous and at worst, often misconstrued and unecessarily confusing. But basically, whether a function is positive or negative is solely determined by what other function it is paired with. For example if N is paired with T, then the N functions are always positive and the T functions always negative. Do not use polarity.

For example: INTj
-Ti/+Te
+Ne/-Ni
-Fi/+Fe
+Se/-Si
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Increased expression of one function (1) suppresses the opposing intradichotomy function and (2) suppresses the opposing intrablock function (and vise versa).
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Some socionists do make the +- distinction (e.g., to define certain reinin dichotomies) but it is largely superfluous and at worst, often misconstrued and unecessarily confusing. But basically, whether a function is positive or negative is solely determined by what other function it is paired with. For example if N is paired with T, then the N functions are always positive and the T functions always negative. Do not use polarity.

For example: INTj
-Ti/+Te
+Ne/-Ni
-Fi/+Fe
+Se/-Si
etc.
I've actually seen it used quite a bit but never with any real explanation to it to make sense of it all.
Using it could explain the whole extratim thing for introverts and intratim thing for extraverts.
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I've actually seen it used quite a bit but never with any real explanation to it to make sense of it all.
Using it could explain the whole extratim thing for introverts and intratim thing for extraverts.
I actually found what you were talking about. All I could think of was the type descriptions, d'oh. Yeah, it looks like the pluses and minuses aren't so important:

http://wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=Plus_and_minus
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I actually found what you were talking about. All I could think of was the type descriptions, d'oh. Yeah, it looks like the pluses and minuses aren't so important:

http://wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=Plus_and_minus
How does an ~Education Major end up being turned on by Psychology ?
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How does an ~Education Major end up being turned on by Psychology ?
My major was English. I'm doing my post-graduate diploma in education in the autumn

I'm an ENFp, I get turned on by weird things. It's Si as the fifth function.
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Old 05/06/2008, 04:19 AM
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My major was English. I'm doing my post-graduate diploma in education in the autumn

I'm an ENFp, I get turned on by weird things. It's Si as the fifth function.
Suggestive, weak, accepting, childish ......taht's the fifth.
I believe i experienced this feeling when once i was around an ISTp girlfriend you could say.
I never really felt like that before ............ then again maybe i was just hallucinating ...or something

I like the Socionics model better than MBTI for explaining the role of the dual function. In MBTI it (the dual function) is considered inferior, it doesn't do it much justice for worth it has.
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Suggestive, weak, accepting, childish ......taht's the fifth.
Also, the fifth is having unusual desires and tastes you can't understand or fulfill. But I was joking
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