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Old 13/03/2006, 09:00 PM
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Well, I just can't imagine you letting people push you around.

Rick:
'If someone or something forces such a person out of a certain territory (a job, a room, a business, etc.), he or she quickly switches to thinking of alternatives ("that's fine, I was thinking of leaving anyway").'

Do you relate to this, because this is quite important?
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Old 13/03/2006, 10:03 PM
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I don't really let people force me to do things in general, but when it does happen, yes, I can identify with that quite a bit. I like to think of myself as flexible and optimistic, and that would be one of the reasons.
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Old 13/03/2006, 10:07 PM
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Actually, I was quite a pushover when I was younger, but I'm learning more and more all the time how to stand up for myself effectively.
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Old 13/03/2006, 10:26 PM
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So you are on a bus and someone comes and says: "Hey you, this is my seat!" What do you do? Do you say to yourself: "That's ok, I was getting out on the next stop anyway"? Or you just go: "**** YOU BITCH ASS MOTHER****ER AND GO TO HELL!" Which one is it?
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Old 13/03/2006, 10:31 PM
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Well, if I was getting out on the next stop, I would get out on the next stop (duh?). If I was going to be on for a while, I would look at him funny and say "Uhh..I'm sitting here. Find another seat." I wouldn't just stick my tail between my legs and get out of his way, but I wouldn't necessarily get all big and stand up to him either.
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Old 13/03/2006, 10:38 PM
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Do you realise (see/detect) quickly when people want to push you around or you realise it while being pushed around (or maybe don't even realise it)?
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Old 13/03/2006, 10:39 PM
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I don't always realize it; sometimes not until the pushing is done.
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Old 13/03/2006, 10:42 PM
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Give me an example...
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Old 13/03/2006, 10:51 PM
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I can't think of a specific instance at the moment, but I'll try to come up with an example.
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Old 13/03/2006, 11:10 PM
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I don't know, I can't really think of examples. All I can tell you is that sometimes I don't really notice until after the fact that I've been manipulated.

Any other questions?
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Old 13/03/2006, 11:57 PM
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I did not say manipulated.
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Old 14/03/2006, 12:44 AM
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Ok, pushed around. Controlled. It's all the same to me.

People tend to be able to make me doubt my self-confidence pretty easily. I'm really narcissistic, and I think I'm making up for an actual lack of confidence in the things that I appear to be so sure, not to mention self-flattering, about.
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Old 14/03/2006, 01:58 AM
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Anything else?
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Old 14/03/2006, 04:49 AM
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Could we maybe do a model A analysis here to see what makes sense in terms of Role/Dual-seeking functions? We've tried to see which fills the dominant role more clearly, and so far that's been inconclusive, so I say we move onto other functions to see if we can get a clearer picture.
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Old 14/03/2006, 07:02 AM
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I'm interested in your methods, Sergei. I wish I could see exactly what it is that you're seeing in me. It's going to be tough because my self-image is so distorted, and I realize that. However, I'd like to give it a shot, so if you're willing to explain, I'll listen to whatever it is you have to say.

Also, what is it about Dmitri's methods that you disagree with? Testing?

One other quick thing: I can identify completely with every word in this description, even thinking back to when I was 12 or 13:

http://socionics.us/theory/bi.shtml

Do you disagree with anything said in there, and, if not, could you reason that an ESTp, as you've typed me, might identify with it to such an extent?
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Old 15/03/2006, 05:14 PM
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I dunno, Gilligan, how to test your S/N via a questionaire because I have to go with what you tell me and something that you may not say because you think is irrelevant could be important. Also, the S/N attributes are better seen via observation, which I can't make. Well, maybe I will think of something.
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Old 15/03/2006, 06:09 PM
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Heath looks ENTp on that video btw.
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Old 15/03/2006, 08:51 PM
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gill: write something original like epic: http://www.socionics.com/ubb/ultimat...15.html#000007 and your ENTp-ness will never be questioned again (see the post on the 12th)
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Old 15/03/2006, 09:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Gilligan:
Heath actually looks alot like me facially. Remarkably so.
What is it that you find similar facially?
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Old 16/03/2006, 12:22 AM
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Something about the eyes, chin, and jawline. It's hard to put a finger on: its just something about the general look, more than anything. Also, the thing with the eyebrows is something I do in the mirror all the time.

I also think our smiles would be similar if he didn't have such such British teeth

I don't think the pictures I have up of me are very accurate. When I get back to school (where my camera is), I'll try to get a good shot of myself up.
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