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IntjWurm 04/06/2008 11:32 PM

Really Cold Or Emotionally Impaired
 
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Originally Posted by complicater-complexer (Post 10532)
What is RCOEI?

It is a Global 5 type corresponding to this description:

withdrawn, not wild and crazy, private, loner, not relationship obsessed, not swayed by emotions, insensitive to the needs of others, unhelpful, interested in intellectual pursuits, avoidant, does not put the needs of others ahead of self, thinks before acting, very scientific, not upset by the misfortune of strangers, avoids small talk, values solitude, private, does not get worked up about most things, fearless, unaffected by the suffering of others, calm in crisis, not easily excited, won't do much to avoid rejection, not known for generosity, not easily confused, cold, not prone to complimenting others, dislikes most people but tries to get along to minimize hostility, hard to get to know, more dominant than submissive, not easily hurt, driven by reason, influenced more by self than others, rarely worried, hard to impress, not that interested in relationships, hard to influence, not concerned about failing when trying something new, self confident, knows why they do things, not easily moved to tears, not prone to jealousy, not guided by moods

complicater-complexer 04/06/2008 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by IntjWurm (Post 10535)
It is a Global 5 type corresponding to this description:

withdrawn, not wild and crazy, private, loner, not relationship obsessed, not swayed by emotions, insensitive to the needs of others, unhelpful, interested in intellectual pursuits, avoidant, does not put the needs of others ahead of self, thinks before acting, very scientific, not upset by the misfortune of strangers, avoids small talk, values solitude, private, does not get worked up about most things, fearless, unaffected by the suffering of others, calm in crisis, not easily excited, won't do much to avoid rejection, not known for generosity, not easily confused, cold, not prone to complimenting others, dislikes most people but tries to get along to minimize hostility, hard to get to know, more dominant than submissive, not easily hurt, driven by reason, influenced more by self than others, rarely worried, hard to impress, not that interested in relationships, hard to influence, not concerned about failing when trying something new, self confident, knows why they do things, not easily moved to tears, not prone to jealousy, not guided by moods

Where can I find such test?

IntjWurm 04/06/2008 11:40 PM

Global Representation With Just Five Traits
 
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Originally Posted by complicater-complexer (Post 10536)
Where can I find such test?

Here is a link.

Vibration 04/06/2008 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by IntjWurm (Post 10531)
I really like gamelan, klezmer, and flamenco, but my music is mainly baroque and jazz influenced, with a little trance and some shred (I play electric guitar). I can send you some of my work if you want to hear it.

What kind of music do you write?

Mostly Canadian kangeroo jazz and Greenlandish pan-afro-country. Have been delving deeply into the super critical art of balancing these intrinsically genuine styles. It is really difficult.

IntjWurm 05/06/2008 12:04 AM

Genre Is The Death Of Invention And Birth Of Innovation
 
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Originally Posted by Vibration (Post 10551)
Mostly Canadian kangeroo jazz and Greenlandish pan-afro-country. Have been delving deeply into the super critical art of balancing these intrinsically genuine styles. It is really difficult.

It sounds interesting. Have you ever heard of Brain Sync? They use subliminal frequencies behind the music to create biofeedback and encourage positive mentalities using brainwave therapy.

Vibration 05/06/2008 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by IntjWurm (Post 10554)
It sounds interesting. Have you ever heard of Brain Sync? They use subliminal frequencies behind the music to create biofeedback and encourage positive mentalities using brainwave therapy.

Yeah, innovation includes implementation (which requires specifics) and is more important than invention which could be a silly dream. Psychoacoustics is an interesting field. It is always present in a great mix but it can be exaggerated to achieve really cool special effects, sub base ultra high frequencies that interfere with audible frequencies or delta spikes at bio/emotional frequencies I guess.

IntjWurm 05/06/2008 12:22 AM

Sub Bass Is The Best Instrument
 
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Originally Posted by Vibration (Post 10562)
Yeah, innovation includes implementation and is more important than invention which could be a silly dream. Psychoacoustics is an interesting field. It is always present in a great mix but it can be exaggerated to achieve really cool special effects, sub base ultra high frequencies that interfere with audible frequencies or delta spikes at bio/emotional frequencies I guess.

Very true. Black holes vibrate incoming matter at Bb 57 octaves below middle C. There is also this (control of machinery with brain waves). The Brain Sync stuff might be a good prep, so we can train even faster.

SG 05/06/2008 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by IntjWurm (Post 10554)
It sounds interesting. Have you ever heard of Brain Sync? They use subliminal frequencies behind the music to create biofeedback and encourage positive mentalities using brainwave therapy.

Um, not sure about subliminal frequencies, you make it sound mysteriously complicated. Is this the one where they use binaural recordings? If so then what this have to do with biofeedback?

I personally did tried the binaural recordings myself and not too impressed with it. I also tried biofeedback or should I say neurofeedback and actually own my personal 2 channel EEG machine, and this stuff really works.

Vibration 05/06/2008 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by IntjWurm (Post 10563)
Very true. Black holes vibrate incoming matter at Bb 57 octaves below middle C. There is also this (control of machinery with brain waves). The Brain Sync stuff might be a good prep, so we can train even faster.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoacoustics

IntjWurm 05/06/2008 01:28 AM

Silence Is A Phonon With An Infinite Period
 
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Originally Posted by Vibration (Post 10568)

Do you like ambient music?

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Originally Posted by SG (Post 10567)
Um, not sure about subliminal frequencies, you make it sound mysteriously complicated. Is this the one where they use binaural recordings? If so then what this have to do with biofeedback?

I personally did tried the binaural recordings myself and not too impressed with it. I also tried biofeedback or should I say neurofeedback and actually own my personal 2 channel EEG machine, and this stuff really works.

Not quite, it uses different frequencies that are 'out-of-focus' to stimulate brain waves (you don't actually hear them unless you listen for them) and your EEG and mood should respond. I have seen some pretty amazing neurofeedback on youtube, like someone going into a trance and isolating different brain waves, or completely freezing them and stopping all activity.

EDIT: Never mind you're right, it is binaural...I guess different people are more or less receptive to it.


RSV3 05/06/2008 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by IntjWurm (Post 10578)
Do you like ambient music?



Not quite, it uses different frequencies that are 'out-of-focus' to stimulate brain waves (you don't actually hear them unless you listen for them) and your EEG and mood should respond. I have seen some pretty amazing neurofeedback on youtube, like someone going into a trance and isolating different brain waves, or completely freezing them and stopping all activity.

EDIT: Never mind you're right, it is binaural...I guess different people are more or less receptive to it.


Very interesting! Are these EEG machines pretty expensive?

IntjWurm 05/06/2008 01:58 AM

Electro-Encephalo Great!
 
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Originally Posted by RSV3 (Post 10587)
Very interesting! Are these EEG machines pretty expensive?

You should ask SG, he has one and seems to like it.

SG 05/06/2008 07:52 AM

That EEG machine is not reeeeeeeally proper EEG machine, more like a toy with limited feedback. Mine is 2 channel and the clinical EEG is 12 channel or more, so you can imagine the difference. This is what I call neurofeedback:



Direct link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6XeCwFQrCA

TIP: How to embed a YouTube video...




And yeah the machine is expensive, but then expensiveness is relative.

Cyclops 05/06/2008 07:57 AM

What do EEG machines do? Is this something a weak sensor would respond to?

SG 05/06/2008 02:25 PM

They boil EGGs..jk They measure your brainwave activity. Neurofeedback however is when you get instant notification when certain brainwave activity is occurring. This makes your concious part of the brain become aware of its own unconscious activity. Pretty neat, huh?

Cyclops 05/06/2008 02:43 PM

They boil heads then haha. That is quite interesting. I should look into this more. It's stuff like this that keep a simple sensor like me interested. Sometimes I wonder if I'm really here for the socionics as much as the Ne fix lol. How did you find out about this stuff? I will peruse of this some more.

shadowpuppet 06/06/2008 07:18 PM

I actually got into music because of Metallica (by that I mean enjoying to listen to it, then after two years playing it, and then after three years teaching and performing it):


Vibration 06/06/2008 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by IntjWurm (Post 10578)
Do you like ambient music?



Not quite, it uses different frequencies that are 'out-of-focus' to stimulate brain waves (you don't actually hear them unless you listen for them) and your EEG and mood should respond. I have seen some pretty amazing neurofeedback on youtube, like someone going into a trance and isolating different brain waves, or completely freezing them and stopping all activity.

EDIT: Never mind you're right, it is binaural...I guess different people are more or less receptive to it.


Incredibly cool. Are they commercial?

shadowpuppet 06/06/2008 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Vibration (Post 10959)
Incredibly cool. Are they commercial?

Do you mean the binaural music, EEG machine, or biofeedback systems in general?

Vibration 06/06/2008 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by shadowpuppet (Post 10960)
Do you mean the binaural music, EEG machine, or biofeedback systems in general?

biofeedback systems of course what do you think?


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