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porntips 18/03/2006 02:43 AM

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I was actually kind of disappointed to become convinced that i'm ENTp. I'd enjoyed the notion of myself being INTj. It was the negative side of ENTp as described on the16types.info that made up my mind.

SG 18/03/2006 11:00 AM

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Originally posted by porntips:
I'd enjoyed the notion of myself being INTj.

How flattering http://intjworld.com/forums/ubbthrea...ns/biggrin.gif What is it that is so attractive about INTjs in your opinion?

Human s/n #098621 19/03/2006 01:19 AM

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It was the negative side of ENTp as described on the16types.info that made up my mind.
The dark side of the force is really strong.

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I was actually kind of disappointed to become convinced that i'm ENTp.
Greatness is a transitory experience. It is never consistent http://intjworld.com/forums/ubbthrea...ns/evillol.gif

porntips 19/03/2006 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by SG:
How flattering http://intjworld.com/forums/ubbthrea...ns/biggrin.gif What is it that is so attractive about INTjs in your opinion?
Cold, detached, *focussed* reason.
Not caring or even being aware of what other people think.

SG 19/03/2006 12:04 PM

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Haha, what about an INTp, they are not *that* different in this respect?

porntips 19/03/2006 01:13 PM

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Originally posted by porntips:
reason

SG 19/03/2006 01:47 PM

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Wow, that was cold and detached enough, you're on the way there, mate, on the way there...

SG 19/03/2006 02:02 PM

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Oops! Sorry, forgot to add

http://intjworld.com/forums/ubbthrea...ns/sarcasm.gif

Human s/n #098621 19/03/2006 02:19 PM

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I think reason is overrated, intellectual imagination can be quite beneficial too.

Anyway,i can't see why one should prefer one label more than the other. To me, there is no such thing as a superior type. Also, changing a label doesn't change the person. Just be yourself. Everyone has gifts and weaknesses.

SG 19/03/2006 02:25 PM

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Originally posted by Human s/n #098621:
Also, changing a label doesn't change the person.
I wouldn't underestimate the power of suggestion if I were you. This is crazy, but people do change if they believe to be a certain type.

Human s/n #098621 19/03/2006 02:36 PM

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I wouldn't underestimate the power of suggestion if I were you. This is crazy, but people do change if they believe to be a certain type.
This kind of stuff is confusing. Why should one believe to be a type if there aren't at least many similarities? And if there are similarities right from the start, what would one have to change?

porntips 19/03/2006 03:05 PM

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The differences? I don't think you would deliberately chage your behaviour, but rather you would adopt the ideals of the type you thought you were and your behaviour would change accordingly.

The ideals of your own type are familiar, and therefore uninteresting.

Human s/n #098621 19/03/2006 03:35 PM

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The differences?
Geee... now that was obvious. I dislike superfluous redundancy http://intjworld.com/forums/ubbthrea...lins/frown.gif

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I don't think you would deliberately chage your behaviour, but rather you would adopt the ideals of the type you thought you were and your behaviour would change accordingly.
I see, but i would never have thought of this. I got my own ideals to stick to.

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The ideals of your own type are familiar, and therefore uninteresting.
Na, won't say so. Conformity is nice. Why should i make myself familiar with other ideals? They are not mine.

Appleteck 08/11/2011 08:18 PM

Hello fellas, sorry I am late to the INTj/ENTp party... If you want a good comparison/insight between the two types read the Steve Jobs/Apple (ENTp) book, which has very good information into the type as well as Bill Gates/Microsoft (INTj).

Cyclops 09/11/2011 11:46 AM

I've got Steve Jobs as an ENFj and Bill Gates as an ENTj :confused:

Appleteck 09/11/2011 11:10 PM

Close but no cigar...:D

Appleteck 10/11/2011 06:50 PM

Here is a little of the below link on the subject of this thread:

In 1779, Samuel Crompton, a retiring genius from Lancashire, invented the spinning mule, which made possible the mechanization of cotton manufacture. Yet England’s real advantage was that it had Henry Stones, of Horwich, who added metal rollers to the mule; and James Hargreaves, of Tottington, who figured out how to smooth the acceleration and deceleration of the spinning wheel; and William Kelly, of Glasgow, who worked out how to add water power to the draw stroke; and John Kennedy, of Manchester, who adapted the wheel to turn out fine counts; and, finally, Richard Roberts, also of Manchester, a master of precision machine tooling—and the tweaker’s tweaker. He created the “automatic” spinning mule: an exacting, high-speed, reliable rethinking of Crompton’s original creation. Such men, the economists argue, provided the “micro inventions necessary to make macro inventions highly productive and remunerative.”
All ENTp's or does it take different types to brainstorm and work together to come up with a truly great idea? I believe it is the latter; our species is alive and thriving today because of it.

Appleteck 11/11/2011 07:55 PM

This is a very interesting “law” and from my experience it has some truth to it. However in order for it to work as advertised, it would require individuals with around the same intelligence level. Otherwise, you would have “ideas” coming from a different source/quadrable this can lead to major conflict, which I have experienced firsthand. Fortunately, the world is made up of different intelligence levels with different Overall Life Experiences (OLE).



Conclusion: 'It Applies in Theory, But Not in Practice'

shadowpuppet 29/04/2018 06:06 PM

Wow, this was really funny! I guess I’d rather not be ENTp because, as G. H. Hardy once said, “It is not worth an intelligent man's time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.”


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