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SG 13/03/2006 09:00 PM

Re: Type me, type me!
 
Well, I just can't imagine you letting people push you around.

Rick:
'If someone or something forces such a person out of a certain territory (a job, a room, a business, etc.), he or she quickly switches to thinking of alternatives ("that's fine, I was thinking of leaving anyway").'

Do you relate to this, because this is quite important?

Gilligan 13/03/2006 10:03 PM

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I don't really let people force me to do things in general, but when it does happen, yes, I can identify with that quite a bit. I like to think of myself as flexible and optimistic, and that would be one of the reasons.

Gilligan 13/03/2006 10:07 PM

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Actually, I was quite a pushover when I was younger, but I'm learning more and more all the time how to stand up for myself effectively.

SG 13/03/2006 10:26 PM

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So you are on a bus and someone comes and says: "Hey you, this is my seat!" What do you do? Do you say to yourself: "That's ok, I was getting out on the next stop anyway"? Or you just go: "**** YOU BITCH ASS MOTHER****ER AND GO TO HELL!" Which one is it?

Gilligan 13/03/2006 10:31 PM

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Well, if I was getting out on the next stop, I would get out on the next stop (duh?). If I was going to be on for a while, I would look at him funny and say "Uhh..I'm sitting here. Find another seat." I wouldn't just stick my tail between my legs and get out of his way, but I wouldn't necessarily get all big and stand up to him either.

SG 13/03/2006 10:38 PM

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Do you realise (see/detect) quickly when people want to push you around or you realise it while being pushed around (or maybe don't even realise it)?

Gilligan 13/03/2006 10:39 PM

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I don't always realize it; sometimes not until the pushing is done.

SG 13/03/2006 10:42 PM

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Give me an example...

Gilligan 13/03/2006 10:51 PM

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I can't think of a specific instance at the moment, but I'll try to come up with an example.

Gilligan 13/03/2006 11:10 PM

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I don't know, I can't really think of examples. All I can tell you is that sometimes I don't really notice until after the fact that I've been manipulated.

Any other questions?

SG 13/03/2006 11:57 PM

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I did not say manipulated.

Gilligan 14/03/2006 12:44 AM

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Ok, pushed around. Controlled. It's all the same to me.

People tend to be able to make me doubt my self-confidence pretty easily. I'm really narcissistic, and I think I'm making up for an actual lack of confidence in the things that I appear to be so sure, not to mention self-flattering, about.

Gilligan 14/03/2006 01:58 AM

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Anything else?

Gilligan 14/03/2006 04:49 AM

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Could we maybe do a model A analysis here to see what makes sense in terms of Role/Dual-seeking functions? We've tried to see which fills the dominant role more clearly, and so far that's been inconclusive, so I say we move onto other functions to see if we can get a clearer picture.

Gilligan 14/03/2006 07:02 AM

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I'm interested in your methods, Sergei. I wish I could see exactly what it is that you're seeing in me. It's going to be tough because my self-image is so distorted, and I realize that. However, I'd like to give it a shot, so if you're willing to explain, I'll listen to whatever it is you have to say.

Also, what is it about Dmitri's methods that you disagree with? Testing?

One other quick thing: I can identify completely with every word in this description, even thinking back to when I was 12 or 13:

http://socionics.us/theory/bi.shtml

Do you disagree with anything said in there, and, if not, could you reason that an ESTp, as you've typed me, might identify with it to such an extent?

SG 15/03/2006 05:14 PM

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I dunno, Gilligan, how to test your S/N via a questionaire because I have to go with what you tell me and something that you may not say because you think is irrelevant could be important. Also, the S/N attributes are better seen via observation, which I can't make. Well, maybe I will think of something.

SG 15/03/2006 06:09 PM

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Heath looks ENTp on that video btw.

time is being 15/03/2006 08:51 PM

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gill: write something original like epic: http://www.socionics.com/ubb/ultimat...15.html#000007 and your ENTp-ness will never be questioned again (see the post on the 12th)

SG 15/03/2006 09:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Gilligan:
Heath actually looks alot like me facially. Remarkably so.
What is it that you find similar facially?

Gilligan 16/03/2006 12:22 AM

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Something about the eyes, chin, and jawline. It's hard to put a finger on: its just something about the general look, more than anything. Also, the thing with the eyebrows is something I do in the mirror all the time.

I also think our smiles would be similar if he didn't have such such British teeth http://intjworld.com/forums/ubbthrea...emlins/lol.gif

I don't think the pictures I have up of me are very accurate. When I get back to school (where my camera is), I'll try to get a good shot of myself up.


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