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Cyclops 05/07/2008 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyclops (Post 13421)
What if it is incorrect... What if ISTp Si goes better with ENFp Fi ?

*bumped for kensi* he seems to have disappeared!

kensi 05/07/2008 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyclops (Post 13421)
What if it is incorrect... What if ISTp Si goes better with ENFp Fi ?

I don't know for sure...everything is so dependant on the definitions in this business......it's not impossible so you can't rule it out altogether...i just havn't heard the kind of logic (thru intertype or something of equivalence) to suggest so (unlike the other scenario which is somewhat validated thru intertype as well some of my personal experiences).......and a real case study takes too long to do....to...

If you have access to information in your competing scenario mentioned there, let me in on it, dude.:cool:

Cyclops 05/07/2008 12:40 AM

I'm curious. Do you always place importance on logical definitions? (also you say it goes against your experiences. May I enquire of those experiences?)

kensi 05/07/2008 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyclops (Post 13427)
I'm curious. Do you always place importance on logical definitions? (also you say it goes against your experiences. May I enquire of those experiences?)

Depends what you call a logical definition. To me Logic is a style. Each of the 16 types are capable of logic. T, really, is the only thing that has actual existance. F is merely the holistic interpretation of T, and S and N are the effect of the modifier of time. Where a T fits into one's prefered psychic makeup determines the type of logic one uses. I hope thaty sheds some light for you ,Bro.

T used up front represents direct logic unfiltered thru the other aspects whether temporally or intra-permanently you could say. As a supposed ENFP, i cannot stand T up front, i'm not good at it ...and fairly so cause i have a deep internal preference to let T slide a little on down the road...Te is prefered for me but it is my hidden agenda....it is somewhat weak cause Ne dominates over it to give me kind of a flexible NeTe logic in my assesments.

How about yourself,dude ?

cheers.

Cyclops 05/07/2008 12:54 AM

In regards to your type. I'm back to thinking you are Ti seeking you seem to rely on structures and don't like to give Te related examples.

kensi 05/07/2008 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyclops (Post 13429)
In regards to your type. I'm back to thinking you are Ti seeking you seem to rely on structures and don't like to give Te related examples.

that is a good point.....sometimes i wonder too....personality is very complex.

Have you considered that i might be INFp?:

INFp= Ni Fe Ti Se ....in that order of quadra function preference...


...this version is one of probably 5 or so ways of explaining this concept of Ti seeking.

(notice in the progression that Ti follows Fe...thus it seeks it out and fings it )

...it is a scenario i believed in some 3+ years ago.

Cyclops 05/07/2008 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by kensi (Post 13430)
Have you considered that i might be INFp?:

This is most likely scenario. It's the one that fits.

Yes.

kensi 05/07/2008 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyclops (Post 13431)
This is most likely scenario. It's the one that fits.

Yes.


If i'm INFp then Duality is screwed ! I'm usualy more likely to fight an ESTp then attempt to live with one...haha (its not out of the question with me it never is)

Before seeing too much tunnel-vision and jumping on this scenariio, you have to consider other viable ones too...

I think i'd be more comfortable being ENTp than INFp.......

ENTP= Ne Ti Fe Si .........in terms of q-f values and in that order of strength of makeup.


Notice here that Ti seeks out Fe continously for help and receives it.

also,.... Ne-ENFp has a high degree of Ti in the superego too... so i don't know where we're going with this thread.:eek:

Cyclops 05/07/2008 02:34 AM

Your last girlfriend was ISTj. Relations of activity.

shadowpuppet 05/07/2008 06:38 AM

happy birthday bro

complicater-complexer 05/07/2008 08:11 PM

Happy birthday Kensi but be careful not to have your face in the cake while turning off the candles.

Cyclops 05/07/2008 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by complicater-complexer (Post 13458)
Happy birthday Kensi but be careful not to have your face in the cake while turning off the candles.

He looked like already happened from his video. He was a little on red side.

Kanerou 05/07/2008 08:19 PM

Happy 30th.

Call me anal retentive and all, but Cyclops did consider INFp for you.....many, many pages ago. INFp or ENFj. Still, I noticed that the people on MBTI Central think you may be INFP, so stick with _NFp.

kensi 08/07/2008 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Kanerou (Post 13460)
Happy 30th.

Call me anal retentive and all, but Cyclops did consider INFp for you.....many, many pages ago. INFp or ENFj. Still, I noticed that the people on MBTI Central think you may be INFP, so stick with _NFp.

Thanks, Kany

:D Not really...if you follow his discernable train of though. I guess though it depends what you consider "consider" . He was quite bent on ENFj in large majority part. I do think i understand why and my hat is off to him....but i've gotten along way too well with ISTps (yes, those with the very same look as in Ganin's celebrity page...only not as weird as Mr.Bean, LOL)

INFP there, i'm confident, is quite different than INFp here....there it would make me FiNe and i know that these are a Delta value and it would have to make me INFj here (a Delta value too)

MBTI Central has little impact on me....call me anal retentive and all but other types were suggested too.....including ISFp which i find to be a most interesting suggestion and one which i havn't looked at for a long time....but i doubt that Chinosleep will think that i am the same type as he...i dunno...let's ask him.

IMO.

Kanerou 08/07/2008 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kensi (Post 13578)
Thanks, Kany

:D Not really...if you follow his discernable train of though. I guess though it depends what you consider "consider" . He was quite bent on ENFj in large majority part. I do think i understand why and my hat is off to him....but i've gotten along way too well with ISTps (yes, those with the very same look as in Ganin's celebrity page...only not as weird as Mr.Bean, LOL)

INFP there, i'm confident, is quite different than INFp here....there it would make me FiNe and i know that these are a Delta value and it would have to make me INFj here (a Delta value too)

MBTI Central has little impact on me....call me anal retentive and all but other types were suggested too.....including ISFp which i find to be a most interesting suggestion and one which i havn't looked at for a long time....but i doubt that Chinosleep will think that i am the same type as he...i dunno...let's ask him.

IMO.

Please. Kanerou.

I am INFP/ENFp. And I still am not so sure about automatic j/p switch.

*shrugs* That's fine. If you're talking about MB, that's ISFP. Hey, we can ask. ;)

kensi 09/07/2008 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Kanerou (Post 13583)
Please. Kanerou.

I am INFP/ENFp. And I still am not so sure about automatic j/p switch.

*shrugs* That's fine. If you're talking about MB, that's ISFP. Hey, we can ask. ;)

The switch only works if you are a "Function as Primordial"Believer. If you are the rather more pragmatic "personality index as primordial" Believer...then in fact a switch may not be necessary. While nobody may claim to want to talk philosophy...in the end it is a philosophical answer....and you cannot compare apples and oranges as the saying goes.

My definition of ISFp is Si dominant. You can scrap the whole description as it has only an auxiliary effect on me. In the other forum it was suggested that i may be Si dominant as in ISFp ( references were made to ISFJ on the other forum ). That is still atheory that i have yet to fully dismiss....but then if i am Si dominant how the heck do you explain my largely dominant intuitive faculties??

U there Chinosleep ?

kensi 09/08/2008 08:15 AM

i wanna add another post to this thread......



I have made my decision...... based on several years of research.....and this last recent inquest into my type...after thinking it all over again.....=I am ENFP for sure!

SG 10/08/2008 07:55 AM

If I didn't know better (judging by screaming signature), I would have thought you're under pressure from your peers and you constantly feel the need to prove your type to them....seriously?

Cyclops 12/08/2008 10:20 AM

Seems like Fe valueing by kensi


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