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Question #1251801661Tuesday, 1-Sep-2009
Category: Theory
Hi,I understand that each type supposedly has one duality type, but what if the person in question happens to be a half breed, say isfj and infj. Would this mean that the person will never actually find any dual, but only a combination of semi-dual and dual relationship? Or better yet, if the person has undecided p/j preference; then he/she is in a conflict/dual relationship?? I would just like you guys to give me some insights on how a combination of relatioship status feels like.. ps. I guess I'm approaching this more from a theoritical point of view since real-life relationship cannot be identified as clearly... Thanks -- the mad patter
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A1 Also it doesn't matter what some one 'decides' they are. For example if you can't decide whether or not you are judging or perceiving that doesn't mean you are not either. Your type is, according to most, set for life and your knowledge of it is completely irrelevant. -- JWC3
A2 There are no half-breeds in Socionics. In MBTI maybe. -- Ezis (ESFp)
A3 There is no such thing as a half bread, there are subtypes and if you buy into them then each subtype still has a 'dual' subtype. It is impossible to be two types using socionics theory as it is. -- JWC3
A4 Hmm, i guess the closest thing to a halfbreed according to socionics would be someone who has very well developed superego and id functions. so an ISFj with well developed Ne (PoLR). in that case, i imagine they're dual could very well be an ENTj with well developed Si. -- S
A5 to A1 I can see part of your argument, but I think there are people who are less extreme in their preference for the functions. Are you implying that our knowledge of our type is completely irrelevant? And that there's really no grey zone in the personality type? Personally, I think the 16 type theory was developed to simply life by categorizing people into convenient boxes, but I don't think that people can actually be strictly labeled as a certain type like a cookie jar, even at subconscious level (seeing as there is no valid proof to prove its existence) . You did raise an interesting view though;I'll chew on it. Thanks -- Anonymous
A6 Your exactly right, however the one misconception about my point of view you seem to be making is that my boxes are made out of rubber. They have room to move and stretch and I suppose to some deggre your knowledge of your type can make you more self aware. For example once I discovered socionics and found out that one of my weaknesses was expressing how I feel I realized when this was happening and to some degree became more expressive. but it is indeed impossible to change your type, you can change attributes of yourself. Like become more outgoing and social but that doesn't at all make you extroverted. -- JWC3
A7 I don't believe any one is really a "full" type. For example, no one is 100% introverted or extroverted 100% of the time. Sometime you are loud and sometimes you are quiet, but your tendency is what creates your types. It's just a general way that you think and act, and your dual is someone that generally thinks and acts in a complementary way. And yes, some people can be well balanced and know when to use what thought process, but you are who you are. Maybe you can step over to use your feeling sense when you need to, but you're still a logical. That's the way it is. Also, duality isn't the end all be all of good relationships. It's not like there's no way to possibly be happy if you don't marry your dual. Appreciate the differences we all have to offer. -- ISFj Courtney
A8 Hi mad patter, I wholly agree with your line of thinking. Functions may be more or less developed. This impacts the strength of potential intertype relations. It is only, after all, theory. Then we must look at the practice - what functions have been developed through lifetime experience, and how is an individual living right now: what functions are being consciously developed further, what's subconsciously running haywire, and what core needs are not being fulfilled. -- intp?
A9 Being extroverted =//= to being loud, and being introverted =//= to being quiet. -- JWC3
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A10 Theoretically, since this is the explanation you're looking for, a person can only embody one particular type. We use every function, but have a natural inclination to use certain ones. However, reality isn't as cut and dry, and you'll find people who are more balanced than others which can result in a disparity even between identicals. -- ISTp
A11 To A7 thanks for your two cents. I understand that duals are not necessarily the best relationship and it might be missing some interesting learning processes gained through other relationships...But I think you do have to agree that interacting with your duals is much easier than with other types in a way that is undescribable. To A8 Oh no, you just raised more questions,they are very interesting though. So what your are saying is that the potential success of relationship depends on the functions that are conciously or sub develped. So whould that mean the degree of preference is irrevelant and the functions that are used/developped has more implact? -- the mad patter
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