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Question #1240252618Monday, 20-Apr-2009
Category: E/I
Is it true that extroverts are more likely to have extroverted friends and introverts introverted ones? -- just wondering
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A1 possibly, but it probably depends on the individual more than anything. i'm an introvert and i'd say i have a pretty balanced amount of each. other introverts are good if you want to have a good talk, extraverts are good if you want to have a lot of fun. -- Anonymous
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A2 Can only speak for myself; It is an issue of too much or too little. Although many might disagree, I consider as an example, Introvert\Extrovert along a scale, I know fairly down to marginal errors where I am at that scale. If I see or experience some who are deflected way off my "point" it is considered too much, or too little, to make a visual picture of it all. Too much of extroversion is kind of exhausting, too much of the offensive is scewed over to the other part, even if I am extrovert myself, too much introversion is experienced as uninspring and withholding. I am fairly divided between introversion and extroversion, but I am on the extroverted "side". So , I can accept both parties equally well, but not if they are too far off my point. I have met enough people to pin down that phenomena as a personal ruler, and I can size up their proportions pretty fast. If they fall out of the preferred comfort sphere, there will never be any friendship beyond the superficials. But inside it, there are\has been, both introverts and extroverts, fairly divided in the middle. -- ENTp
A3 A2 please enlighten me as to how you can detect an introvert from an extrovert. As I am struggling myself to find out whether I'm an ENFP or INFP. Also being able to see extrovertedness/introvertedness in my friends will help with typing myself. In response to the original post, yes extroverts are most likely to have extroverted friends and vice versa, although there is likely to be a lot of exceptions, as there are so many factors involved with why we are friends with others. -- I/ENFP
A4 Reply to A3; OK. I'll try my best. What you are asking is presumably how you may generally judge extroverts from introverts. Your struggle in determination is well known by me. I have been there, and I might still be there, I live in a world of dynamics. But, here in this forum, and repeated tests have pointed towards extroversion, by almost second to none alternative, good consistency. If that is true, and I believe it is now, for now, I have a standard to refer to, which of course now is a subjective standard. I can compare my actions, the process of reasoning behind them, the decision making leading to them, and the effect of the actions upon the psyche and comfort when doing them, and how the experience is appreciated, repeatability willingness, aftermath enthusiasm, opposed to the same sequence applied to anyone I want to compare with. With me, I am energized by doing things external my bodysphere or what I should call it. I might experience energy when I come up with certain ideas of such activities, and if I suggest those to anyone, I can immediately see to what degree of fascination that suggestion is received by the other. When we might do them, I see to what extent they display endurance and dedication in them, and post analysis, how valuable the overall experience was for them, judging their enthusiasm vs my own. If they drag behind, withold, or get drained in dedication and fascination in any or all of these ideas, actions, repeatability willingness, in consistency, I deem them more introverted than myself, excluding disturbing factors as out of mood, not topic of special interest, differences in physical endurance etc . Now, that was in typical in the world physical actions. When it comes to human interaction, I have a similar checklist to follow; how do they percieve other people of concern, compared to me, how do they perform in the pre phasis of potential or imminent conflict of any order of severity, how do the perform when in the same, and how they come out of them, and in which way they do that. Conflicts is a good measure to use when establishing extroversion\introversion to my experience. To complement, how do they usually reflect about any idea, concern or existencial belief of interest they have, opposed to how I would have handled the same. The list really goes on and on. And, even if this sounds like an extensive process, it is'nt, the judging goes quite fast with most people, there are a few exceptions, but overall quite easy to get a swift picture if they are more or less extroverted\introverted than myself. And forget the checklist as per se, I am not even aware that I follow one. I have just described the process when challenged, using my own standard of extroversion\introversion in comparison. So, I compare subjectively, I believe you asked for a good objectively based way to determine extroversion\introversion applied to your own. I don't know if I can help you much there, since as I initially said, I had that struggle myself. In retrospect though, I came up with this, and you may follow this approach, when in doubt, compare the various definitions of extroversion and introversion, get a feel for both, although I usually resist feeling as a gauging measure, I dont trust it much, but it comes to play here. Then, get in what I call rest mood of thought train, and this is important, the mood in where few, optimally none, disturbing factors plays with you. I can give a trivial example how out of rest mood might infect your reasoning; I know an individual that claimed he hated oranges. I reasoned AOK for me, and let the case rest, there are quite many reasons for resisting eating oranges afterall, you might despise the color, the messy process of peeling the skin off, disgusted by the taste of them, the smell etc, factors that directly is a consequence of physical and mental interaction between oranges and the specific individual, two entities and mentals as interface. But as the years went by, the real truth behind it was revealed; he decided to quit eating them when he noticed that one certain person of applied hatred, carried oranges home. Then I knew he suffered from an irrational none-of-validity, association complex of some kind, clearly out of his superior decision platform. When he decided to quit eating oranges, he was obviously not in this rest mood. He was surrendering power of decision beyond his own entity. That is not unusual for most, in any degree or flavour, but when you are adressing and removing all these filters, masks and external programming, you are in mental rest mood, and have a good platform for decision and comparison. And look back on your record of history, on all those events, notice which decisions and actions that were made under any external influence, and which were made close to rest mood, and save the last kind, and then see if you notice a pattern. If you then notice a pattern, then compare to the defintions of extroversion\introversion and see if you hit a breakpoint. That is the best advice I can give. An easier way to get in rest mood? Consider this; I got a friend, he said after beeing yelled at, that it didnt have any concern in him. That opened up quite much for me, I took the concept to the philosophical limits; No matter what other people might think of you, it is entirely thoughts generated in an other individual. That is not your responsibility to handle. You can actually take the privilege, and should do that, to ignore it completely unless it have merits of constructivity or necessary correction that can enhance your integrity, which we all need. But if purely negative or evil minded intentional, you have the right to concider it just as a consequence of the rights of any individual to think whatever they want to think, and let it stay there, at least kept outside of your own sphere of interest. Until they get physical with you of course, then you have to counteract, I do not condone pasifism. But as long as it is thoughts, reasoning and opinions, hit the ignore button. I know it is easy to say this, and it is a long way to go for achieving consistent behaviour of reasoning in this way, one step at a time, but I believe you get my picture. That is the road to rest mood. As Kant said; "the thing in it's own definition". The mind in it's own pure thinking, which I could have called rest mood by his philosophical lines. -- Anonymous
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