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| Question #1203157989 | Saturday, 16-Feb-2008 |
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| Does ISTJ girl exists? if so how they they act like? -- ENFj |
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| A24 Is A17 really ISTJ, or ISTP? -- Anonymous |
| A25 errrm im an istj, i'm a fashion designer and currently work as a stylist for Vogue paris among other publications... and so i have to say that A17 is a load of crap. -- R |
| A26 A17, as an ISTJ girl myself, I think your post is that of the extreme ISTJ. While some of your points match mine, I can honestly say that I am not a label whore and buy all my clothes while on sale, I love clutter and knick-knacks if they have special meaning to me, I have a great imagination and I daydream constantly because it's a break from all my mundane work activities, I don't manipulate others for any reason because I could care less, and I have no interest or time for a vain guy - I like mine ugly and preferably with a 'stache. Now let's add sense of humor to the kind version shall we..? -- DT |
| A27 my mother i think is an istj and she is arrogant and boring -- Anonymous |
| A28 I think that A17's description is MBTI ISTJ, but Socionics ISTp (or ESTj), not ISTj. It fits Gulenko's ISTp description better than ISTj. -- Anonymous |
| A29 i think most of the ISTJs ar Highly sensetive People -- Anonymous |
| A30 half of these people are probably confusing ISTj's with ISFj's. they aren't highly sensitive. and Jd your mom is probably ISFj, the other poster said the difference is usefulness vs. ethics, but really ISFj's value efficiency and usefulness more than the ISTj, seeing that their dual's leading function represents that. -- Anonymous |
| A31 Hello, everyone. I have tested as ISTj. Yes, I am a girl. -- Hannah |
| A32 I am usually not one to make ad hominem attacks, but A17 must have come across an ISTJ woman who spurned him because she must have been too traditional or conservative for his tastes. I am a woman who is ISTJ and I have found that my own conservatism/traditionalism tends to rub people the wrong way even though it's not meant to be so. I have come to a point in my life where I have tried to accept who I am and my views- in other words, there isn't anything wrong with my personality, it just is. Not all ISTJ women are sophisticated and calculating as some of you are saying. The assertion that ISTJ women dress sleazy and are materialistic driven is at odds with the conservative and traditional nature of most ISTJ women. Yes, we DO see life about duty and responsibilities but that doesn't have to do with money, it has to do with doing things right. A17 described many of the qualities that are actually in ENFP women,not ISTJ women. Many ISTJ women can't stand cattiness or typical "female" behavior, and the use of logical thinking often sets them at odds with other women. I personally can't expend energy on sitting around thinking of devious ways to manipulate people. How could I, when I am an introvert? Isn't it a little difficult to emotionally manipulate people if you yourself are reserved with your own emotions? -- Anonymous |
| A33 A6 and A7 are right... Istj are quiet and we don't share our feelings not because we don't feel them actually we feel it a lot, but we just can't part because we are introverted. We tend to show how we feel rather say how we feel. We tend to be very reliable and responsible to our obligations and friends. However at least in my case I love to be right and I love proving I am. Health arguments excite me(politics, religion, etc...) In a relationship I'm loyal and expect the same from my partner, basically I'm righteous, do to other as you would like done to you. I believe that people should know what is right and act like it. At work I'm always on time and doing my job better then expected. -- Anonymous |
| A34 They can be very good dancers. (Jennifer Beals - Flashdance) -- jgbr |
A35 One of my best friends is ISTJ! She's tough, funny, intellegent and refreshingly sincere. Also sort of masculine and has a black belt in karate. Whenever I overdramatize the stress of my life, she helps me laugh it off due to her sober practicality. We've only met 2 years ago, but i'm more comfortable with her than all my other friends, who are different types and whom i've known for a much longer period of time. She's also the female version of my perfect boyfriend ( sounds wierd, but whatever) Oh yes, you must've guessed that i'm ENFJ  -- Anonymous |
| A36 I am an ISTJ girl in high school. I get good grades and am a good test taker. I don't really identify well with other girls. I've always hung out with the guys. I have feelings but sometimes I feel like I am physically incapable of expressing them. I am very quiet unless I know you really well, then I don't shut up. I like hugs and affection I just have trouble getting this across to people. I like to look nice but practicality takes priority over fashion. I have a tendency to always have to be right and I have expensive taste in certain areas. I like to hang out with extroverted people because they allow me to listen and observe without feeling awkward but sometimes when I do have something to say they make it hard for me to get my comment in because it takes me a while. Some people my think I'm snooty or snobbish because I tend to use elevated language and I enjoy being appreciated for my achievements. I want to have a loving relationship but I'm not good with expression my emotions in a way that makes them obvious to others. I hope that clears things up for everyone on ISTJ women. We do exist and we aren't all completely horrible. We just are not your stereotypical girl. We tend to play COD and enjoy watching sports and we think more like men than like women. -- Anonymous |
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| A37 The ISTJ usually have a problem expressing their deepest feelings, even though they may be very strongly felt. Yazz - Fine Time -- jgbr |
A38  I'm the rare ENFp male dating an ISTj female, Believe me, they exist. I am by no means a physically effeminate guy. I'm 6'4 190 and have an athletic background. Before meeting her, i always considered myself kind of a badass... wrong. I've never been in a relationship such as this. Roles are all screwy and very situation-dependant. I find myself being the overly emotional one, constantly seeking her validation and approval. This is all very new. Being an ENFp, I've always had a natural tendency towards emotional manipulation... but this turns out to be completely ineffective with her. She kind of forces me to abandon my games and be my real self. This is new. So new , in fact, that at first i kept trying to run from the relationship, which she promptly told me "no, you're not allowed". Turns out, she's the love of my life (i know, i know, not an uncommon saying from an ENFp). And since minute one, it's been a roller coaster. We're very cyclical, going between periods of great fighting, but then merging into periods of great joy. When it's good, it is OH so good. During the bad times, well, one of us always stands up and fights for the relationship, in completely opposite ways. I guess this was quite long winded, to answer your question, yes. ISTj women exist. And i couldn't imagine being with anyone else. -- MassesDoTurn |
A39 A17/A22 I'm an ISTJ female and what you describe to me sounds like a vicious, self-centered b***h. I'm not like the description you give except I'm inward bound not by choice. I would love to connect with a person who I could show my true self to. It's too painful  -- Anonymous |
| A40 They are kind of quiet, but can possess a striking beauty, and an almost mature and feminine appeal to them. The ISTJ girl that sat behind me in class had a very soft voice, and a serious look. She dressed in the ripped jeans and loose tshirts look with thick stripes and textured designs. -- ENFX |
A41 hello this is ISTj woman speaking  we are usually described like merciless cruel machines but that really isn't the case. we are very sensitive and cause of our weak Ni and Ne we are very mistrustful and cautious. we don't fuss around when it comes to telling truth - we say what we mean often priding ourselves with our justice and transparency and we expect the same from our partners. first sign of insincerity and lies and you're out of the game. we are image conscious, competitive (but not to beat others but to prove ourselves that we can be the best) honest, positive but prone to anxiety and workaholism. we love to study but we don't like theory - we study with ease and have great memory but prefer rather concrete literature with lots of examples. we operate based on facts and our world views can be rather black or white. we prefer and expect financial and emotional security from our partner but are also independent and self-earned. we can be very witty and clever and usually seek humorous, witty clever partners who are not easy to get but are very loyal and stable. although we hate mindgames we appreciate strong mental dynamic. if Se dominant we can be often into competitive endurance sports and can appear quite extroverted when socialising. we are prone to self doubt and extreme (self) criticism. we are deeply loyal and love with our whole hearts but usually wont verbalise it but rather show it through physically and/ or through doing simple things for you (breakfast in bed, making you lunch, buying you trinkets). we are not romantic but want you to be. we're good listeners and are very private. in us you can find a friend and companion for life -- se- dom |
| A42 -- A / I |
A43 Yes they do exist. I'm an ISTJ girl. ISTJs girls can be wry serious and task orientated . However, I do have a soft spot sometimes and we do dress up sophistically . It need not be the latest trend though.     -- Anonymous |
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