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| Question #1201118675 | Wednesday, 23-Jan-2008 |
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| I've been discussing socionics at similarminds.com lately. Many people there don't like socionics. Why is that? For some reason MBTI makes sense to them but not socionics. They seem to dislike the intertype relations part the most. In my opinion, socionics is better than MBTI, because intertype relations is very helpful to me. INTP -- yogurt |
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A1 What was the question? Why do the people at similarminds.com not like socionics? You should probably ask them, not "us".  BTW, I like your opinion, however no personality theory is 100% accurate and you should always take it with a grain of salt. -- Azure |
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| A2 I thought that the MBTI simply measures outward behaviors, which can change daily. So some people end up saying "I'm 70% thinking" or "ENTJ or INTJ". This is wrong, in my opinion, but actually probably correct in MBTI land. Socionics is definitely a better theory because it works better for me. MBTI fanatics say that you can't determine type just by VI - then why can I do it? -- econdude |
| A3 no, should we say, u are not 100% accurate to the theory,... or that little allowance is made for factors outside the plain of socionics intertype...which with changing 'ideal conditions'..change things. So yogurt the INTP. ever thought that why it makes sense for u is cause u an intp. no. i remember the MBTI inter-relational charts.. and only got to think that bt the NT SF and 3rd option they provided, that i really like some of all of those advantages provided, and that with 40yrs invested in a marriage relationship, why not have all. if socionics fails, i will attribute it to the failure in territoriality of it's current fore-bears. little allowance is made for intp mavericks who shake the system every now and then. one unrecognized characteristic of inter-relationship types.........oops...save that for later -- @sirac |
| A4 Never really thought about it, but then I know of a lot of socionics people that don't like MBTI. So I guess people have a general tendency to need to belong to a community, and therefore be in some way loyal to that particular community. Personally I can see a little something in both, but if I were to choose I would have to say socionics, as logically it makes sense. Its backed up by some theory and therefore more in depth that MBTI, which appeals to me. -- Cyclops |
| A5 I honestly don't suppose the antipathy towards socionics is *at all* related to the validity of the hypothesis. One need not explore the intricacies of the two contending theories to note that a greater level of elegance and sophistication accompanies the socionics paradigm. And this is something that would *ordinarily* render the theory palatable to the intellectually-minded individuals who I'm sure are just flocking in droves to similarminds.com. I think the resolution to this discrepancy between expected and the actuality lies in the fact that proponents of socionics often adopt highly critical and dismissive attitudes towards MBTT. Perhaps similarminds denizens were initially introduced to socionics by a batch of socionics advocates who were especially vociferous and categorical in their pronouncement of the inferiority of Myers-Briggs typology. Such scorn and derision would only breed resentment and ignite a clamor to reinforce the status-quo. -- h |
| A6 MBTI doesn't discuss outward behavior in anything beyond tendencies based on preference, but subject to personal development. It is a study of fundamental preferences and how people mature and approach life decisions. If you are judging the theory based on what you find on the sites hosted by geocities, then you don't know anything about the theory. Books are good for that. I recommend "Portraits of Type: An MBTI Research Compendium". The reason V.I. doesn't work is because of cultural identity. If you can determine someone's cultural background you might have a chance of identifying them by appearance but even then for different reasons people can choose to try to appear as something they wish to be over what they really are. That being said the theories approach Jung's work in different ways and are not mutually exclusive. Why there is contention is similar to how minority groups tend to fight amongst themselves jockeying for position rather than attack the majority that creates their artificial obstacles. Personality type theory is fighting for acceptance in the psychology community and discounting alternatives is not as productive as it sounds. -- Decaf |
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