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| Question #1194117611 | Saturday, 3-Nov-2007 |
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| How common is it for people to mistype themselves especially with n and s parts. I would imagine someone in college or university education could think of themselves as n because there is more pressure to think that way when learning abstract concepts. Also when working, in many jobs there could be a lot of emphasis on day to day drudgery, resulting in the n being neglected to such an extent as to make one believe they are sensors? -- Anonymous |
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A10 no none big, no big ideas..cyclops..and nothing to look forward to. if u structure your own world, u would know the moment something was out of place. But first let me address iAnnAu..: i have lately stumbled over an old Gulenko literature piece (from 1998, posted by one site which specilizes in Russian Translated pieces in Socionics)..in addition to describing primary types..with a view of saying, 'this is why our current political landscape is like this'..and these are the primary types involved in structuring this world. In his piece (and i sincerely hope i will find time to post a short-cut) he divided those primary types into 2 triads, 2 triads of 3 per triad each, so 6 types, which he calls central 'social position' types or something of the sort [excuse my para-phrasing, it introduces my own 'offensive biases' in addition to succinantly summarizing]. the first triad are the Betas, with exclusion of   , and the second triad are the Gammas with exclusion of  . as u intp/ili, let me get specific towards those points of elucidation. FIRSTLY, this is not the point i wanted to make earlier, but when i reread that article, it fitted quite well with my present opinion. first off, action in the world, and specifically and especially INTELLECTUALIZATION has to be divorced from type. Apparently those Beta personalities i love to hate, are also intellectual, and this fits in well, for their Go-timings or times of Agitation and Grip...forces them into the centre (or lets call that void [that centre thing], for it's not something i have to define for this model, or my model would come apart at the seams)...and if i have to admit it, my of my best friends from school is one of those Betas, a pertinent intellectual..for he could enter those rigours well and knew his ground (but still subject to subjugation systems and ethical control, but at points our goals could unite, considering the state of this world). But what does this mean for us. It means that the world also has Social Systems which we should call by model names. In a business political world, the Gulenko article held well. But what about the micro-worlds, like this forum. What is seen here primarily, is that that second Triad, of Gammas, is in derision. LIe are seen as only 'entreperneur/glad faces',..the whole SEe/ESFP is seen as bad. here INTP males would discuss this whole dual landscape (but this always fits in and is fired in negativity by the present social landscape), female INTPs say they would much rather prefer EN(T/F)P males, as such ESFP males would provide no sensible attractive [in life] value. On the other spectrum, what is happening, to irrelavate Gulenkos stand of primary triads, is that with this INTP volition at present model social circumstances, is that ENTPs are being brought more on board. Even in the asthetics of living life, in male social environ values, ENTPs have much more value than INTP males. But in general, the whole trend, is that there is a strengthening of the whole intellectualization process involved in INTPs, by bring ENTPs into that political spectrum (INTJ confusions where also Abroad at a stage, i am glad i missed that, and would hope it disapears completely, for there is little strength in the J/P confusion, but much to be gained from the NTP communication strands projected in E and I motors). But that said iAnnAu,...if the present social living motors where to change, SEe would again get it's relevation (noun for relavant) for us. Considering that intellectualization or 'the world power of projection into an atmosphere, which in certain sets are the learned criteria known as intellectulizations' are universal. Perhaps my historical irritation on this site, was not anti-type directed, but it was certainly fueled by the 'threat-reactions' many types projected,...but my historical irritation..i prefer to call(call:a quick in sentence use of the word 'state') projected towards 'flesh' (as understood in biblio-centric terms, as mechanisms in types which self-destroy..like the typical male intp claim, that esfp women seek towards the socialized world, but this is poorly understood in context, for it is a natural brake, for it is released once the intp male by there maturity and strength enter into proper fight 'radiuses'/radi). Cyclops, if u want to understand void, it is simple, don't go out into the world with the attitude of wanting to learn something, and finding many new things to learn, ..rather go out with the attitude of thinking..this is 'how i function'..now i need labels for these things i already know and have seen in myself. Search Go Rin No Sho on the internet, the Void chapter, is only 2 or 3 paragraphs long, and introduce that authors sense of attitude well enough. Chow,but i suspect, that my un-referenced part has yet to be written, either that, or i am deceiving myself, for it has already become blindly part of myself. -- @sirac |
| A11 it actually has a lot to do with your self identification as a ISTP, see, when one sees a new creature, one intrinsically thinks that there has to have been some 'survival expediency' in that set. as i don't think there will be some massive SP vs NT confrontation, and as i am not one suited to communicating in the clicks, such an erand, would be a good one for leaving. -- @sirac |
| A12 sirac, I think that you and I think alike. I used to always fear that I was a "negative" type and occasionally had nervous break downs related to my knowledge of socionics. you are likely a thinker and I am possibly a feeler, as I have no interest in writing that much. You have quite a bit of will power in that you continue to open new perspectives and I did too; on a basic lvl, I fear that my medication takes away from my N. N seems to be the most important aspect of socionics for many of us and it is always be redefined over and over. I am writing this on the premises of the "N" concept that you have introduced in your postings as it allows me to be an N. Circular; I haven't done anything close to this in a while and my head's about to explode. Does that make me an N? -- Anonymous |
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