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Question #1187466381Saturday, 18-Aug-2007
Category: ENTp Hidden Agenda
Can someone please explain to me in simple laymans terms the achille's heel of an ENTP in terms of their feelings? -- anon
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A13 After a lot of bulls*** up there (guys are citing from books?) I decided to continue about what A12 said. So, A12, I'd contradict you a bit, we don't like those affection shows in public or from people we consider 'rational' or not sincere. It is hard to explain, but I simply am embarrased to be hugged by some ppl but not by all. I think to go to an ENTP's heart is to act something like this: show glimpses of initiative and retreat if not noticed (in fact you are noted, but not interesting at the moment), expose yourself like detaining a 'secret weapon', a potential . Be modest and look helpless in technical matters, but be careful, we are suspicius, and we don't like to talk in vain. For example, if you show a 'not-fit' smile, or if your eyes are not focused on that matter you look help for, we perceive this as a trap. Look for their interests and never answer "Interesting..." or "You are right." but ask questions (like "What means this?" or "How did you found that?"). Bear detachment and curiosity, don't laugh to every joke but only the ones you understand, etc. An ENTP needs a bit of intimacy to express his/her feelings, so don't try too many things in public (except, for example, a serious discussion about human needs, drive, emotions). -- Mihai, ENTP
A14 Just in the interest of ENTP discussion...I have to say my guy is actually very affectionate, and loves praise:) This also may be worth mentioning should anyone be interested: there are some MBTI vlogs being submitted on youtube (ENTP, INTJ, INTP, & INFJ so far that I know of). -- Anonymous
A15 An ENTPs true weakness has to do with their sensing fuction; they can not dance. - I just had to laugh at this because it's true. I can't dance, although secretly I've been longing to take up jazz dancing classes. But I'm an athletic ENTP, and I love sports... -- transitionzero
A16 I agree with yogurt, I am better at accepting insults and epithets than complements. -- DustBunny
A17 A8: This seems to a be a reoccurring trend among ENTPS. I find myself in the exact same paradox. Sometimes I feel like the only time I can feel emotions are through other people. Hence, crying relentlessly in movies, news articles and basically all the injustice in the world. I feel like when people get to know me they feel cheated, because I advertise myself as such an expressive and fun person. But honestly, I'm just going through the motions acting on what's "acceptable" to convey. This is essentially why I push people away, because I don't want them to see how devoid and calculating I really am. Wow, this sounds a lot more depressing than intended. Its just so funny how people consider me to be "open" and "honest". My technique is (that I do unconsciously) is only giving away about 10% of my true nature and then elaborating on it and embellishing. I guess its true that ENTPs are master calculators. But sometimes its hard for even us to realise it! ahaha -- Anonymous
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A18 i feel that if you really enjoy the company of your dual its because you are unhappy with yourself. i like to spend my with people that love to talk about differnt subjects of intrest with my and i enjoy if they agree with me or disagree with me. ISFP's really dont understand what i say and arnt intrested in my theory's and dont like that i only look at things logically and rationally and then that in turn prevokes me to get angry and them and express how they dont make any sense and things can only be argued with logical and rational thoughts. i am a ENTP by the way. -- the man (ENTP)
A19 A17: Spot on mate. Couldn't have said it better myself. Most of those around me would never understand and probably judge me harshly if they really knew, so I think its best we keep this to ourselves. Well, ourselves and the rest of 'teh internets'... -- Anonymous
A20 @A3 I think people often mistake ENTp's as being the leaders of their relationship with ISFp. As A17 says, Feelings are essentially our achilles heel. As an ENTP female I always feel as though I got shafted in the the relationship department because men are generally unattracted to women with personalities as overpowering as mine or they expect me to take them by the hand and be their leader. But what I truly want out of a relationship is someone who will take ME by the hand and show me how to let lose of my emotions and just feel. As A17 says, I'm way to calculating, which is often confused with being completely unfeeling. True, a lot of my extroverted feeling is fairly contrived, but underneath the mask is a lot of pent up emotion that needs a little guidance. The compliment between ISFp and ENTp, I believe, comes from the ENTp's ability to stimulate even more creativity out of the ISFp and the ISFp's ability to disarm the ENTp's emotional fortress. -- ENTp Female
A21 I'm a female ENTP, and I agree wth A8 and A10 but would like to know if A12 is certain he/she is reffering to an /E/NTP... Only because I know that one of my social problems would be the inability to respect other people's personal space, not the reverse. i.e. Exuberant hugging. ...As to receiving compliments... That is very awkward for me, yes. I have no clue how to respond. A13, your complaint about people citing from books manages to compartmentalize neatly one of the things beginning to annoy me about socionics. For example, Duals are /not/ necessarily the best relationship just because Socionics says so. A17: I don't cry at movies or as a general rule in public but I do feel as if I keep a great deal of myself hidden. But further analysis raises the question of whether I actually am that discrete or whether I just like to think that I am. -- Anonymous
A22 A17 and A19: You ENTps aren't so inscrutable and misunderstood as you think. I reckon there's a few NFs out there who know what you're feeling better than you do. This probably annoys you, however :-P ENTps have two achilles heels - Fi and Se, which is why they don't like ISFjs, perhaps both types remind each other of what they suck at and could never be. That's a guess, but that's how I feel about my contrasting type. -- pandpanda (ENFp)
A23 They want everyone to like them and appreciate them, but it's really hard for them to know if people actually like them. -- oo ro
A24 I am a female ENTP recently out of a relationship with an ISFP. Let's see... the conversation always revolved around him and his feelings. He was so sensitive he was having an emotional crisis on a daily basis. If he asked me about something or allowed me to speak at length, I simply lost him. He didn't understand the topic or focused on the wrong information. If I tried to help him logically work out the details of something, he argued and provided some solution that really didn't make any sense and usually perpetuated the problem. He found me grouchy and insensitive and took my emotions personally. Very annoying. I am actually neither of those things, and possibly nicer than most. Genuinely nicer, anyway. He was very critical and controlling. I am not at all. I would never suggest an ENTP/ISFP match-up. Bad idea. -- Anonymous
A25 I live with an ENTP. I am INTP and we get along extremely well. I think emotionality is definitely hard for him, but he is very empathetic and he likes to be a comfort when I'm down. I've only seen him emotionally worked up once (anger) in three years I've known him. I think he fears displaying emotion because 1) he doesn't understand his emotions and 2) fears they'll be exploited. He's very lonely, but he'd never say or show it (I know because I'm God). He'll go on a date and say it went well and then never call the girl. So either they didn't hit it off, or he's afraid of being rejected when he finally lets the girl into his heart. -- Anonymous
A26 A17: Hahaha yes. I was just thinking this the other day. Someone said he knew me completely and I almost laughed... except I started pondering "whether I actually am that discrete or whether I just like to think that I am." (Just as A21 said). Its funny I didnt realize I was doing what I do until I read some of these posts... it makes sense.. -- Anonymous
A27 getting called stupid. and A12 is right, i love to dance and do, just badly. -- Anonymous
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