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Question #1137522626Tuesday, 17-Jan-2006
Category: ENTp ENFp
Is this an accurate statement: ENTPs can tell what other people are thinking, whereas ENFPs can tell what others are feeling? -- im better
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A28 I'm an ENTP, and knowing what people plan to do has always been a skill of mine. I am also quite fast at seeing if their thoughts will work, which means I sometimes feel like just getting straight to it and say "drop it, it won't work like you're hoping". This triggers the reaction "you don't know what I'm planning!" and they stop listening, heh. The thing that allows me to do this is that ENTPs, more than anyone, can keep many thoughts in their head at the same time. You can't read what someone is thinking if you can't grasp the thought in their head, but if that thougt has already flown by your mind, you just have to match that thought with their current expression. It's just like very similar people who knows what the other is thinking because they just got the same idea, except to ENTPs, it happens more often. -- Anonymous
A29 I'd say that statement is fairly accurate but could be refined. In general, extraverted intutiion excels at articulation, specifically articulating internal expression or one's mood. I think this talent extends from their vivid imagination, in this regard any pictorial or artistic expression is laterlized into explaining people's moods. The real is surreal in the sense that extraverted intuition will recall a poem, an art piece, movie, tv show, etc, as apart of their explanation, as life imitates art. The same can be said for science, math, history or any topic that interests them. Their explainations involve alot of mimicry and gesturing, becoming even more unconventional. I take all of the above to be true for the four main types with extraverted intuition (ENTp, ENFp, INTj, INFj). As for pyschic ability that's untrue, I find extraverted intuitive types are cognitive of a common stereotype, personification, portrait, and anyone who epitomise a trend. As an example, say your in a dissappointed mood, all the extroverted intutitive types will recognize your mood and begin articulating, however depending on introversion, T or F, the explanation will vary on what caused dissapointment. Let's say you missed an invitation, introverted feeling types will begin by comforting and empathizing with you, saying: "they should have invited you", whereas introverted thinking types will begin justifing how you feel: "you shouldn't necessarily feel dissappointed". -- Anonymous
A30 It's my feeling that an ENTP will be the first to be able to tell what you're thinking, but the last to let you know that. Most people follow a certain set of actions set to reactions which all have multiple factors. Especially since that creates a shift in powers, perceived or otherwise. But that's me. -- Anon
A31 I'm certainly not psychic, but I enjoy getting to know someone, learning certain mannerisms and thereby following a logical process to figure out what they're thinking. It's not that hard, if you know what to look for. But this might be why ENTp's are such wonderful social engineers. I sometimes like to just play a game and talk to someone and gradually manipulate them into doing or saying things that I want. Which sounds pretty cold, in retrospect, but it's not malicious unless you've done something that is personally affronting. And certainly, once you're in my circle of intimacy I wouldn't do such a thing with you. Comes in handy when you're politicking at work. -- Anonymous
A32 The ENFP can usually be quite accurate in knowing what someone else is feeling AND thinking provided they use ALL their senses and faculties before rendering judgement. - Barry G" I agree here, and I would like to add that the ENFP can also fall into the trap of being moody, and everyone knows that when you are moody judgment is lower, even emotional judgment because your own emotions and unconscious can interfere with your sensing other peoples feelings and thoughts. I think the trick for the ENFP (maybe all the NFs) is to find stability and evenness although the thought of not experience the full range of human emotions, could frighten an NF into straying away from this more rational behavior or though process. I also think that ENTPs have a tendency to take in the thought and emotion of the other person and direct it at themselves in a negative light. They believe other people are attacking them because they haven't organized the information properly from an emotional perspective, only from a logical one. This can cause issues of defensiveness from the ENTP and confusion, frustration, and or anger from the other individuals. Oh and ENPs can be overbearing, and annoying in general at times, because of their generally very extroverted nature. -- Anonymous
A33 My T is 70+ but I am also an intuitive emapth. I can actually feel what people are feeling randomly, usually when sleep deprived... but that is more of a psychic ability than just being able to understand someone else's feelings. -- crazy entp
A34 Ironically, A33, two of the three empaths that I have known were T types. -- Kanerou
A35 No it's not accurate, because if you can't tell what people are feeling then you can't tell what they're thinking. -- IEE
A36 Derren Brown - probably the greatest mentalist that every lived is probably an ENFp (based on his facial bone structure, and the way he talks, the things he talks about, and the fact that he is admittedly crap at sport. (what is a mentalist? someone who performs tricks that make it look like they can read your mind. these tricks involve a number of techniques - magic techniques, psychology, suggestion, distraction, etc. in Derren Brown's case, to a great extent, he uses a natural ability to be able to read body language and subconscious cues). If you're not familiar with him, youtube him. you'll be gobsmacked and impressed. his feats are quite amazing. i would say ENFp's with strong Ti (they do exist, but are probably rare) can effectively read ppl's thoughts and feelings based on the accumulation of many, many body and speech pattern cues (via Ne), and then the internalisation of this using Fi. Ti can then be used to logically analyze the conclusions/sensations found by Fi. All this might sound like a lengthy mental process, but ENFp's (and ENTp's) are by nature, lightning-fast thinkers - forming associations between observed phenomena is second nature to them. i think S types can be disbelieving of this ability b/c they naturally do not see the patterns in body language and speech, preferring to associate facial expression, movement etc with the specific context/bg (which of course, is also highly useful, but not as impressive). also, it seems to me that S types in general simply aren't that good at consciously picking up and correctly interpretting subtle body and language cues (especially language, which is a largely abstract construct), but maybe i'm wrong. leading NFj types (ENFj, INFj) - leading Fi or Fe - may not be as great at knowing what other ppl are thinking/feeling, but are better at foreseeing the consequences and effectiveness of ppl's actions, since they have a tendency to mentally extrapolate into the future, whereas ENFp's would rather not think too much ab/ the future, preferring the 'i'll cross that bridge when i get to it' mentality. don't know about ESFj's and ISFj's - i guess they're very good at predicting how ppl will PHYSICALLY react(as opposed to the opinion they might form) to colour combinations, foods, furniture arrangements etc. they have a terrific sense of colour aesthetics i've noticed and are good at judging the ease-of-use of furniture, appliances, etc. haven't mentioned much ab/ ENTp's - let's not forget that socionics was compiled by an ENTp. -- S
A37 this sums ENFPS up to a T; "they often know what others are feeling, but often draw the wrong conclusions as to why they are feeling this way" We're not psychic, but compared to a ISTJ we can tell what others are feeling much better... -- ENFP
A38 I tend to really notice and be intensely aware of how other people are feeling and what their intentions are. I always try to disregard these impressions and be more objective but since my intuition nearly always turned out to be right, I am learning to trust it more. I love our first function. -- IEE
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A39 To be honest, i definitely think isfp's and infp's are best at understanding people! I'm an enfp and i know i can try understand people better, but it's not what i really want or need. And this corresponds to the "hidden agenda" thing where infp's and isfp's hidden agenda is "to understand". I know enfp's hidden agenda is "to know", but it's not to know what people think necessaryly! So in response to that isfp's question, i think u'll know best! Haha:).. -- Enfp
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