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| Question #1120894689 | Saturday, 9-Jul-2005 |
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| Hi! Just thought I better ask a question involving a past workplace incident, it involves a personality clash with people in an industry I have worked for here in Australia, it is a traditional workplace with a clique type work environment. It was in a production line environment in the electrical side of the railway industry. There was a whole group of people who never wanted me there and it is based directly on personality, just analysing a lot of these people they appear to be ESTJ's, the thing is I am an ENFP but I had lots of conflict with these people, it says INFP's are the ones who are conflicting with ESTJ's. The differences I noticed between them and me was : - many only did what they needed to or did the least they could, whereas I did the more than I needed to, I had boundless amounts of energy compared to the others. - I liked to stay back 15 minutes after work to finish my timsheet, tie up loose ends and made sure I got the timesheet done right, it was very detailed, others liked to pack up 1/2 an hour early, wash their hands and clock off right on the dot. - I liked to make sure what was on my timesheet was in accordance with my values, in other words, what I wrote on the workshop I actually did, others would fudge their timesheets by filling it out with jobs which they never did. - Others couldn't work out how I got so much work done in a day so said I was cheating, I did things without a specific plan and got things done quicker that way, I also knew how to make money. - I was flexible and the others were traditional and set in their ways, they didn't like me doing things differently, I was seen to be a rebel. - I am a harmonizer in communication, others were gossipers as the department was known as the rumour mill. -Others saw me as a threat, including supervisors, I was acting like a supervisor without knowing it, I was good at leading people and I had a knack for picking up on what wasn't said, in the end the concrete types thought I was crazy. - Others used bad language as a common form of communication, I do swear on occasions but I spoke better than they did and was more articulate, they also appeared to lack the empathy I had towards people, I tried to use my form of communication on them and it never worked for long anyway. - For them I was hard to get to know as I am complex & intuitive, they were more concrete & simple. - I connect with people through networking, others connected because they were group oriented, I liked being friendly with everyone from a labourer all the way up to the senior manager, I also liked to interact with the people who worked at the cafeteria, I speak to a wide variety of people rather than being in a group. - I am quiet but say a lot at times but can be a chatterbox & say little sometimes, others say little but are loud & speak a lot. - While it wasn't the best job I made it rewarding by using my imagination, the more concrete people thought I was strange as they hated working in any job. - I like to break the ice with someone to get to know them by trying to find a commom point of reference (e.g. I have seen that person before and they have changed their hair style, I will ask them about it), the others would ask simple questions like what's happening or something which relates to them, in other words they expect you to relate to them immediately. - I hit supervisors up for new jobs as I got bored with the menial stuff, I learned skills in 2 different sections of that department, this got the other workers worried as they didn't care what they did as long as they got payed. - Like I mentioned before, I liked to lead people but not to boss them around, others from labourers onwards liked to boss people around. - Stresswise, I went quiet when under stress, others would become angry. - In regards to my Jung expressions I have Fe (extroverted feeling) as I tend to wear my heart on my sleeve, the others are Fi (introverted feeling)and tend not to be bothered by things around them and can let things slide easier, taking things as a grain of salt, but these people can hurt people like me and cannot work out why I get so upset about things. You can see I am extroverted because I am interested in people and things, introverts have trouble speaking their mind where I have trouble with keeping things to myself and letting the world know how I really feel ot think. I also call a spade a spade and I am idealistic (have the NF component of my personality), I have found out I end up getting bored with jobs also because of a lack of creativity, many other when they hate a person will still tow the line when it comes to the politics & bureaucracy of an organization whereas I won't as it goes against my value system, also I hate oppressive authority. I don't tend to have a great deal of close friends, perhaps it is to do with my country location but many people I have met don't tend to match up with my ideals, a lot have been like the people I have mentioned. I know my personality is an ENFP, note how much I wrote and the intuitive side is noticeable, note I still hate ISTJ's as our prime minister is one and I hate him, the others would have to be ESTJ's, Right? I can only assume mixing a free spirited idealist with a judger is bad news. -- Russell Booth |
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| A1 Wow! You sound just like this INFP woman I knew. She was a personal trainer in my gym. For a start she was overweight, which did not do any good to her credibility as a personal trainer, but this is not the point. She was taking her job maybe a bit too serious. She was w-a-a-a-y too bossy and pushy, making some members feel very uncomfortable. We just could not wait until she'd gone. After numerous complaints from the members, the management finally decided to let her go. I don't think it's because she was INFP people had trouble with her, I think she was almost certainly possessed by the evil spirit. -- Anonymous
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Note that a lot of people I was working with were below average to average people, some were also drug dealers and on drugs and felt unconfortable around people like me. Usually it is INFP's which are into drugs (pro weed legalization), basically I would call them hippies. I have worked in other places where I got on great with others but the management were pricks (complete opposite to the railway industry I worked in), if there weren't the industrial relations laws (which our prime minister is trying to abolish) they would have us working around the clock seven days a week, we had an ESTJ Canadian supervisor who I thought was a complete dickhead (arrogant and laughed about workplace accidents), I remember my offsider who was an electrician thought "I wonder if these people have had an IQ test"? But I suppose getting knockbacks from a few hundred jobs before starting my apprenticeship whilst suffering severe depression didn't help my agressiveness, I figured a stable well paying full time job would calm me down rather than being unemployed for months then having a job for a little while, a lot of jobs have gone casual since the conservative government gained power nearly 10 years ago. I also worked for 5 - 6 years in small businesses where there were tight deadlines and I was only working with 1 other person or on my own, the bosses were also very pushy, going to a huge company where you can get things done whenever, having good bosses and working with a hundred other people was a big change for me. The bottom line in the railway industry is a lot of people they have now, I have more motivation than they have in their little finger. They wonder why they are having troubles with the motors on these trains is because whoever did the work on the trains in another company didn't do a good job and the permanent electricians which are supposed to do the job in this one weren't checking things out, it wasn't till me and 2 other electricians were put on as casuals it was then the work was getting done properly. It was when the other 2 left that the work was still getting done more efficiently and was showing up the permanent electricians, they became afraid that I would take their jobs. Note what working in these small businesses taught me was a little discipline as I used to have trouble finishing things when I was younger due to my ENFP personality. But I noticed my mentor/manager when I was an apprenticeship, he was more of an ISFJ because he was excellent (better than me) at spare parts inventory and putting down correct part numbers, I had a heap of trouble with this because it was very detailed. I was however better when it come to sticking to jobs (more tenacity) as he would go home if he had a bad day (lack of energy) where if I went home it would annoy me that I am not back there dealing with things, maybe that's the difference between the E & I parts of the personalities. I am definitely an ENFP because I think out aloud, and I do like doing creative things with mechanical stuff (i.e. twin cam head conversions on cars, fitting bodykits, upholstery colour change, etc). I do find I enjoy what I do better if I have people I can associate with, if I am just doing a routine thing day in & day out with only one person on nobody around & fall into a rut and get bored & depressed. -- Russell Booth |
| A3 I think that it must have been that your work ethic was just far better than the others you were working with! Another thing - were a lot of your work collegues older than you? Older people tend to be a lot more set in their ways than younger, same goes for people who've been working at one place for a long time. It sounds like you need an exciting and challenging job to keep you occupied. However, I don't think it's a good idea to let personality types be an excuse for not getting along with someone. I am a definite enfp and I get along very well with one of my friends who is definitely an istj, even though we are very different. -- Lees |
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