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My response to "Who agrees?"
by Econdude
I have been studying and thinking about personality types since I left grad school in 1999. I wouldn't be attempting to type celebrities and the people I interact with in my everyday life if I didn't enjoy doing so. And frankly, it's become a hopeless obsession. Maybe the cliche, "it makes a better servant than ... master," applies to using socionics or other psychology theory. With all due respect, if you ask me if I agree whether using socionics and type has no value, I disagree.
My posts on the socionics.com Q&A board have consistently implied or flat out stated in many ways that people are more than their types. Your country of origin, gender, level of education, social class, life experiences, birth order, religion, and many other influences help to shape your personality. However, all of us fall into one of the sixteen categories that are rough sketches explaining why we behave in certain ways. Given that we have so many influences that shape our personalities, it is refreshing and even a life saver to have a convenient, if imperfect, way to categorize people.
Some people will misuse type out of immaturity or sinister intentions. I have found that typing people helps me to maximize the benefits of good relationships and mitigate the downside of bad relationships. So that is at least one item of value that I have personally gained from studying socionics.
Why study economics - isn't it just all common sense? Why study history - isn't it all just old news? Why study philosophy - does it have any practical value? Why study anything? I think a very strong case can be made that socionics has a great deal of practical value while satisfying the theoretical types as well. I detect that part of the dissatisfaction you feel with socionics is the tendency some people have to use it to paint everyone with the same brush. I agree, that is a mistake. But if I know one person is an ENFp and another person is an ISTj, I will deal with those people differently, not because I am manipulative but for the benefit of everyone involved.
In my view, type is so influential in a person's life that it almost dominates their internal affects and outward actions. Maybe as the science progresses we will be able to reach a consensus regarding the influence of type. Even if type is not very important after all, I will continue to benefit from it and enjoy learning more about people and why they behave in different ways.
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C1 I don't care how Danny feels about Socionics. I like it, so would someone post another of the "Uncovered" files already? -- Casey |
C2 Econdude, there is no way by reading all your contributions to this site that you are an INTj, so please reconsider. ISTj looks most probable. -- catalyst |
C3 If not an INTj then Econdude is most likely an INTp but not an ISTj surely. -- Dr. Zoidberg |
C4 I completely agree with this article. Besides, if one is passionate about a certain subject where is the harm in studying it? -- Christine |
C5 I completely agree as well. If anything is worth studying at all shouldn't it be the study/science of people? p.s. post another "uncovered"- they're great! -- Anonymous |
C6 I agree, socionics is cool. -- an entp |
C7 Econdude, You have truely used personality type study for the pupose it was meant for. To help us understand one another other so that we can all get along and appreciate what each type or person has to offer. How boring life would be if we all thought and acted the same. People are very interesting and each type is important to society. I have noticed that some have used the knowledge of type to feel or think they are superior to others, in my opinion they would be better off not knowing about type at all. This knowledge should pull us together so that we can accomplish great things, but as usual humans tend to have a thirst for anything that they feel gives them power over another human. Keep up the good work of helping us to see the true value of socionics. Are you sure your not an INTP? : ) -- Firstlite |
C8 to C7 - I have noticed that some have used the knowledge of type to feel or think they are superior to others, in my opinion they would be better off not knowing about type at all. This knowledge should pull us together so that we can accomplish great things, but as usual humans tend to have a thirst for anything that they feel gives them power over another human. -right on firstlite. my main concern about socionics is how people suddenly see each other in a box once they know each other's types. you see it all over the Q+A and forums on this site. of course now you might say i'm presumptuous andusing the knowledge of my type to feel superior to others. -- v |
C9 C8...Maybe this is a good thing, you know, seeing someone in a box rather than expecting them to fulfil one's crazy fantasies. What is worse, seeing someone in wheelchair or demanding the cripple to walk? -- Anonymous |
C10 Thanks for this article, Econdude, when I read the original one I thought about writing something like this but I would never write it that concise and easy-to-read. I very much agree. I usually agree with your posts on this site, too. Which leads me to agree also with some posters of the comments here, is it possible you are an ISTp or INTp? Because I often dont understand and agree with what ITjs write. While you seem you want to express your ideas clearly and easily for everyone to understand, and that is more like Te. -- Ezis (ESFp) |
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