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The Limitation of MBTI and Socionics
by I/O

Both Meyers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI) and Socionics fail to recognize that cognitive processing must operate within the confines of a control system that exhibits its own behavioural characteristics. The purpose of this article is to point out how this limits analysis stemming from both ...
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C1 "MBTI assumes that an extroverted function must dominate a particular type, perhaps because interface with the external world is considered fundamental; it is also likely more observable." I don't understand this. In the case of an INTP in mbti, their dominant function is said to be introverted thinking. In this case (along with all Ixxx in the MBTI), an introverted function dominates the type, contrary to what I thought you meant in your quote. -- Doctorjuice
C2 I can't say I understood all of your article, it was a quite painfully slow read and I had to pause intermittently throughout the article to think about and digest the information and concepts. However, it was an excellent read. Why not create your own system? -- Doctorjuice
C3 Doctorjuice, I understand how this article may be painful; I tried to explain the two systems relative to my own concept but it didn't work all that well. Keep in mind that with both systems, you are dealing more with labels than actual functions. I would prefer to convince Socionics proponents of a need to introduce a temperament (input/output) structure below their preferences. An entirely new system shouldn't be necessary, only the model needs amendment, a task which I'd leave to experts. -- I/O
C4 Understood. Now, I'm a bit puzzled. For people who have an introverted input function (inside the circle), for example an INTp, my understanding is that most of the input they are receiving has to do with conceptual changes in oneself (Ni). If this is true, then their main function pair (Ni and Te) wouldn't be getting ANY external input; the only external input they could receive would be from functions they barely use (Ne and Se). Furthermore, this must mean that types with introverted input as their dominant function receive hardly any external information and thus must be quite oblivious to their surroundings, or what's happening around them. I think you can see this conclusion is obviously false because, at least in my experience, introverted sensing types seem quite aware of what's going on around them. So, I'm either missing some piece of the puzzle or my reasoning wasn't perfect somewhere in there. -- Doctorjuice
C5 C4, all input originates from the outside but for IXXp and EXXj, input is first compared to references that reside on the inside before it is rationalized; in a sense, IXXp and EXXj rationalize the difference, which now has an internal bias. For these two temperaments, input has to be referenced to what is already known for stability purposes. For IXXj and EXXp, input is direct from the outside and unbiased - there is no comparative step. Refer to my article entitled My Take on Introversion and Extroversion. -- I/O
C6 :) -- Anonymous
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